Why the Perfect Speedrun of Punch Out Will Never Happen

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You sometimes forget that the famous speed running documentarian, Summoning Salt, is also a speedrunner himself.

thepopemichael
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Mac’s face when he lands a star punch in this game is hilarious to me for some reason. It looks like he’s upset to be dealing big damage.

rita
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For those that don't know, the Mr. Sandman TAS has been tied by Summoning Salt!

Edit: Summoning Salt has also lowered the Tyson record twice since this video. First to 2:00.61 and then to 2:00.00!

AndromedasCartoon
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27:52 - "the odds for the fight aren't too bad, at about 1 in 114"
This really set the tone for the rest of the video LMAO

SSM_
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Not a single thing in this video will benefit me in any way in life. I absolutely loved the whole thing.

ZykoMike
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For reference, the odds of getting the perfect speedrun would mean that you have to play perfectly, hitting hundreds of inputs which already brush against the limits of human ability, while also selecting one randomly chosen atom from within **the entire solar system**

athenaraines
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There’s something magical and hilarious about the TAS essentially telling Bald Bull to go to hell and punching right through his attacks with 1 to 178 quadrillion odds.

itsybitsycherry
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Don Flamango RNG: "We have you 32, 768 to 1!" Little Mac: "I like those odds"

EarthBound_Fan
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Fun fact: if you're a top level punch out player there's a good chance you're also good at making interesting videos.

gfdggdfgdgf
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I’m surprised that animation team for this Nintendo classic was able implement “stance” into the game. By using the slight variations of timing, they were able to show how Mac is using a right handed stance. Very cool!

zacharyjeffares
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At one time, i could go through this game without taking a hit and thought i was great. This level of analysis and gameplay is just staggering to me.

derekdavidson
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"ok, that was the hard part. now it's time for the other hard part" had me rolling

danb
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The odds of pulling off a TAS perfect run in Mike Tyson's Punch Out are so low that even quantum fluctuations after the heat death of the universe aren't guaranteed to eventually result in it. You're more likely to end up with a bubble nucleation event creating a new universe.

VestedUTuber
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It's fascinating to me seeing games like this that have been worked out to a science. Incredible.

seanb
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As a lover of impossible odds, the odds given in the very end for the whole TAS-speedrun are in the same ballpark as taking every grain of sand on the Earth, putting it in a bowl and then picking at random the same exact grain four times in a row. Or, if someone had simulated a full-game speedrun without RNG manipulation million times every second since the big bang, they would not have made basically any progress towards achieving this run yet, since they would be at around of the number of games in which this run would occur.

superjurppa
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This is getting to Bismuth levels of: "when I was about to publish the video a new strat was discovered."

forgiveman
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0:00 Intro
1:10 Timing Method
2:26 Human to TAS Completion
2:43 'Lass Joe
3:39 Don Flamenco 1
7:24 Great Tiger
9:28 Getting a Star Animation
10:08 "47.48"
11:20 Piston Honda 2 (and the start of RNG)
15:18 Von Kaiser 1
18:17 King Hippo
20:29 Mr. Sandman
28:09 Bald Bull 1
35:30 Super Macho Man Phase 1
39:58 Super Macho Man Phase 2
41:33 Super Macho Man Phase 3
42:11 The Actual Odds
43:30 Feasibility
45:30 Mike Tyson
48:48 Tyson Finder
49:39 The Tyson TAS
51:25 Soda Popinski
52:32 Soda TAS Pop
57:10 Piston Honda 1 (the bringer of RNG)
1:02:11 The Odds...
1:03:12 Don Flamenco 2 - Consistency turned into Fluid
1:05:32 The Impossibility
1:08:27 The Human Time
1:09:28 Bald Bull 2 Human Method
1:11:10 Bald Bull 2 TAS - The RNG Hell that nobody can or will go for
1:14:28 Conclusion

thisbox
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1987 - Summoning Salt beats MTPO before he is even born.
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2023 - Summoning Salt ties TAS for Mr. Sandman
2024 - Summoning Salt ties the complete TAS

malirk
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wow... the fact that you cant retry later fights very easily is crazy! i hadnt thought of that. these speedrunners are dedicated :D

ericsbuds
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Don 2 WR in 39.97 while the TAS is 58.00? Now that's insane 🙃

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