Boeing Open the Door for SpaceX to Take Over Everything!

A look at the monumental problems with Boeing's spacecraft and commercial aviation.

With deaths, catastrophic injuries and quality problems, what has caused their decline over the past 20 years?

Will they be able to get Starliner or the Space Launch System flying regularly?

What do the delays to SLS and Starliner mean for the company and will SpaceX overtake them as a goto company for delivering NASA payloads to space?

We were honestly floored when we dug deeper into the delays to Starliner and SLS. So this also brings you some of the reasons why this might be, from reporting in The Seattle Times, The Everett Herald, CNN, The New York Times, Reuters, Yahoo Finance and the Netflix documentary, Downfall: The Case Against Boeing.

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[michaelwilliams]

Boeing became great because it was run by engineers. Then the accountants and MBA's took over and have driven it into the ground.

[nathangoddard]

Boeing is hiring more lobbyists and moving closer to DC to make sure that they continue to get contracts....far easier than actually innovating.

[paullangford]

Boeing started going downhill as soon as the accountants took over. Their only interest is to maximise their personal income.

[jstcuriosity]

You're so right: we almost "grieve" for the pain of Boeing's many screwups over the past 4 -5 years.. Tragic to see such a sterling company lose it's shine and mojo!

[janethopper]

SpaceX is in the business of building rockets. Boeing is in the business of winning government contracts. They are both the best in their selected businesses, and that's the difference.

[anthonyabbott]

It started long ago. In the late 90’s, I was working for Lockheed Martin Aeronautical Systems. I was to transfer to the F-22 program. But, delays on delays. Which caused massive cost overruns. The F-22 was not “the Lockheed F-22”. It was “Lockheed Boeing F-22”. Equal share of production. DOD pick the F-22 over the F-23 prototypes. F-23 was Northrop McDonell Douglas.
Examples of delays.
1) Wings. First six sets were miss drilled. (Boeing part)
2) Engine nacelles not strong enough for engines. (Boeing part)
3) Pilot environmental systems. (Boeing part)
4) Avionics system and software. (Boeing part)
Etc. etc.
Oh, let’s not forget, Boeing pissed off the USAF. Money given to them for F-22 engineering, found it’s way into the 777 program.
Cost me my job.

Why I knew Lockheed was going to get the F-35.

[notyourwhinyloonydipshitde]

Boeing's board of directors is comprised ENTIRELY of accountants. Need I say more??

[stevepashley]

I would jump in a Spacex Dragon in a heartbeat but I would never set foot inside a Starliner.

[foxylady]

As a pensioner I value what’s left of my life to fly on a Boeing plane let alone a spaceship. It has become a game of Russian roulette with Boeing in both aviation and space flight.

[usedcarsokinawa]

Great presentation! Glad to have found your channel.

[auntpatty]

Well at about 25-30 in your video you were kind of summing up the can Boeing do it safely blah blah blah.
I'm afraid the answer is rather obvious and you laid it out quite well in your video.
There is absolutely no way that that complex bureaucracy with its motives being on the stock market will ever be able to produce a safe and reliable and repeatable product they never have.
They're involvement in getting people to the Moon was an isolated incident which involved the backing of the entire nation and did not have all of the bureaucracy but rather an intense concern for safety thus the success.
But that ship has long since sailed, a private quality based company led by an actual engineer with a physics and finance background is bound to kick ass.
Let's remember NASA has killed 17 people. Every single one of them due to nothing short of complete negligence. All they've had their excuses, but we all heard the evidence and the facts are they were sloppy and let politics run things instead of doing the right thing.
In the case of SpaceX absolutely none of that exists the entire organization's answers to one man. Leadership! That's the name of the game!

[billferner]

A nice summarizing of all issues. Thank you.

[tdevinetampa]

I hope the MCAS in the Star liner is listed in the flight manual.

[marshallbrowne]

I was thinking about this the other day. Boeing much like legacy auto has a culture of where they have been. Both good and bad. SpaceX like Tesla is from the ground up a new first principles company with no prior baggage or stifling corporate culture. It is sad to see what has become of Boeing a once top flight company.

[eddiegaltek]

You shouldn't trust Starliner with a crew until it has performed at least 3 perfect missions, and all of the backup systems returned in perfect condition and could have performed perfectly if called to do so

[Sacto]

I expect Sierra Nevada to now try to get the Dream Chaser lifting body spacecraft man-rated by 2028.

[SteveBakerIsHere]

The VERY worst thing about MCAS is that the airplane designers knew that a faulty angle-of-attack (AOA) sensor would confuse MCAS - to they installed THREE AOA sensors - but the software team only ever used on of them. So instead of saying "One of our AOA sensors disagrees with the other two" - they just ignored the other two and believed whatever nonsense that one particular sensor produced. That is HORRIFIC.

[brianmcguigan]

If it's BOING I ain't going!! This saga clearly demonstrates the supremacy of having engineers in charge of technology companies, rather than accountants!

[davivify]

The story of Boeing shows how competition in a capitalistic economy is *supposed* to work. The leaner, smarter company with the fresh vision beating the old dinosaur. So often, with mega-mergers and lack of competition, I see capitalsm failing. Some small company with lots of enthusiasm and a great vision is bought out by some giant who just wants a cash cow and cares nothing for the vision and, sooner or later, runs the product into the ground. I've seen that over and over again.

[philkipnis]

An excellent, well-thought-out report. I look forward to listening to your weekly programs for updates and information that I may not have been made aware of, or even known about. Thank you again for well-produced well-delivered programming.