YCS Denver CHEATING? Video footage ANALYSIS!

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I say he cheated cause while you focused in on how he's putting imperial order and anti spell at the bottom notice how the card right behind it is kozmo town. It seems he tried to stack but ended failing it

luisant
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I would've never thought we would ever see DJ Khaled play Yu-Gi-Oh! Welcome to 2017, people.

KozmicHand
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pg 51 of the rule book, shuffling, "...but while shuffling, you cannot look at the cards you are shuffling, *or arrange the cards and then shuffle them*."

DragonTaco
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the real crime here was the list he was playing

Jinzo
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I've been doing close up magic for over 10 years now all card related and his shuffling technique was an attempt to give himself a cold deck (a stacked deck in his favor) this is something he failed at doing on the original over hand shuffle with the three stacks, yes he does move his thumb on the first motion but after that the video seems to point at him accidentally putting a card or two on top of his stack... to me he messed up his stack and did have intentions to cheat, this is only coming from my 10 years of practicing close up magic specifically with cards, maybe it was a mistake, but with the ways I've seen, learned and practiced stacking a regular deck of playing cards he definitely tried to incorporate those in and just had a slight slip up

drewtraveleroftheburningabyss
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All I'll say is he tried to stack, but failed trying and made himself look bad. Think it's as simple as that.

braxtoncomix
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Do what I do, following the rules flashed up at 2:55. Whenever your opponent shuffles their deck after searching, shuffle it (I use a light riffle shuffle combined with an overhand shuffle) ALWAYS. If they don't offer a shuffle, ask for it. Take no chances.

chris
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Personally, I think Konami judges need to step their fucking game up. Almost every YCS in recent time, we seem to find some sort of footage in feature matches of people soft/hardcore cheating. Yet, the judges don't pay any real attention to these potential issues, rather just keep score. It may in fact be their main focus to scorekeep, however, it is entirely necessary imo to watch for this kind of shit, because clearly, cheaters know they'll get away with it at this point. Instead of looking for every possible (and sometimes nonexistent) form of damage in sleeves or card that isn't 100% perfectly straight, and giving out penalties as harsh as a DQ, stacking and straight up breaking the rules should be a much bigger focus. Not to say potato chip cards don't deserve someone getting a game loss, but I'd rather my opponent have an untouchably imperfect card, than for them to get away with extra normal summons, battle phases, and stacking in general.

sushiscrublord
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He cheated, the stack was obvious and in the rules it even states "A player cannot check or order the cards while shuffling" therefore, whether or not his stack was successful is irrelevant. He cheated either way and should have been caught on it and reprimanded accordingly.

Crosis
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maybe all along he was trying to stack the kozmo town :o

Azanathal
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can you do the same on anime character if you ask way it because I don't believe jaden top decking 96% of he's duels he must be chatting

jollyjojo
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He cheated, he just failed at stacking. He knew what he was trying to do. intent+attempt to cheat is cheating.

Reapus
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Its clips like these that make me wish that someday we'll have the full-automated duel disks from the anime that shuffle the deck themselves

tsume
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He tried to cheat. It is no reason to stack Imperial and Anti Spell at all. In my old local, it is not allow to change the order of the card when you search for something, and I think it should be considerred as a rule.

PhongNguyen-pqxv
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I have a hobbie as a magician and I study how card tricks work nearly every day. I saw a few moves used in magic. what it looked like he was doing was called "Culling" which was when he pulled those cards off to the side basically keeping them in a place he could start to control the cards from (when cards are on the bottom of the deck it makes them very easy to control to the top) he shuffled the cards in a way that placed the card he wanted on the top of the deck. and if you watch carefully after he places those cards on top the top cards are never disturbed. Yes, you pointed out that the top card was not what we were expecting, but maybe what we thought the plan was was actually not what he was planning. Or maybe that wasn't the top card. it's too hard to tell but there was definitely some sneaky business going on there. (yes, I know this happened over a year ago, but I haven't played yugioh in a long time and I just recently got interested again and saw this and had to make a comment.)

comedyfan
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I can see someone might be getting banned soon when they update it.

Vexacus
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At 3:19, I think you focused on the wrong ruling. The one above the one you highlighted states that after the deck is shuffled, it MUST be presented to the opponent to shuffle. The one you highlighted states that a cut is optional for the owner, but if the owner chooses to cut, then it must be presented to the opponent to cut.

cheyenneaskate
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you can see while she shuffled his deck that he failed the thumb technique once wich explains the kozmo town

TheDortmunderJungs
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Putting Imperial Order on top? What is this, Crush Card format?

NecroNathancon
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He should've stacked 3 Mistakes, 3 Anti-Spell, and 3 Vanity's Fiend against the Metalfoes opp

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