🔴The Titan Sub Situation is Crazy | [OFFICE HOURS] Podcast 124

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New testimony and evidence reveals that the Titan submersible disaster in 2023 was even worse than we thought.

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"you won't be the one retrieving my body."

you're right there, Stockton, because there's nothing left to retrieve, my good chum.

merphul
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Families of the victims have already begun the suit process. Oceangate attempted to use the waiver as a get out jail free card, but intentional negligence breaks that waiver so ruled the court.

kerwynbrat
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"what, am i gonna die if my submersible leaks?" dude that is like the one thing submersibles are designed not to do. the fact that he even asked that rhetorically is just insane. this guy sucks

violetvalentine
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"I understand"
-Stockton Rush, a person who does not if fact understand

sipbipmip
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“It doesn’t just implode” are some insane famous last words

lindsayschmidt
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The more I study the Titan, its design, construction, materials and management it’s looking more like a murder suicide than an accident.

StevenStyczinski-sycj
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I feel like Stockton was treating that conversation about sub safety like it was a fuckin political disagreement. What a moron. He got those poor people killed. That director really tried hard to get him to understand how dangerous what he was doing by not testing it *without* people in it first. Imagine what the former director was thinking when he read the first headline that contact with the sub had been lost.

bigdogpaper
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Stockton 100% believed himself invincible. He didn’t consider even for a second that he could actually die. He saw all safety concerns and regulations as opposition to his project rather than as necessary steps that need to be taken. And it’s also obvious that he thought he was smarter than his own director, since he just completely ignored every single plea and concern the director brought up. Even though the director had way more experience than him.

The dude was clearly a narcissist. With an ego so large that he believed he could not possibly die. Crazy.

Zeke
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Imagine hiring experts with experience in the industry, then completely ignoring and arguing their opinions. That's pure hubris

James
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His "I understand" refrain is equivalent to sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling "Lalalalala I can't hear you!"

Alex-lmcx
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When people ask, "Am I going to die?" like that it's a boast, not a real question. He wants the director to say "yes you'll die" so he can survive a dive and or have an engineer disagree with the director so he can rub it in his face or discredit him.

cerilious
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“It doesnt just implode.”

The scream i scrumpt

nataliemamo
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"It doesn't just implode."
It goes beyond laughable. Like you can't even laugh at how ridiculous that is.

swiftfated
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Stockton is like so many rich entitled people. Ego driven with a good dose of Dunning Kruger. He refuses to listen to the experts because he thinks he knows better because he read it in people magazine once. This is how you get Boeing. This is how you get Pratt & Whitney‘s current issue with the coating on the neo engine.

The pure arrogance that Stockton has to sit there and be all “I know better than you” with that conversation is just disgusting.

Thetranskitchen
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Just 20 minutes in and it’s heartbreaking. Their remains were nearly instantaneously crushed by 370 Atmospheres and turned into amorphous blobs of human mush. No doubt a fair portion of them consumed by the marine life.
Gruesome. Thankfully they never felt it. Unfortunately they saw it coming, or were damn terrified that they were in deep peril.

Hubris? Incompetence? It was both. Stockton Rush was an incompetent leader who, in his hubris, fired his best engineers.
Incompetence and hubris aren’t mutually exclusive. In fact they often go hand in hand.

flapjackson
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46:55 "It screams like a mother before it implodes." For the sake of the other four on the sub, I hope Rush was wrong about that, and they never knew what was coming. But another part of me wishes he went out knowing he had doomed them all.

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Mr Rush: "it'd be $250, 000 to go down and visit the Titanic"
Me: "and how much would it be to go up?"
Mr Rush: 🗿

ALEX-KYLE-g
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I don't think you're "milking" this. This is your field, as a science communicator, it's tour job to explain this (and be a bit entertaining while doing it)

MxlexywithaY
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The waiver doesn't protect against gross negligence. Which I think we can all agree...there was some negligence involved.

thisisbriannaandrea
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Based on everything we know about Stockton, that’s 100% how he asked “am I gonna die?” He was so sure of his own intelligence that he never for a second considered he might die, and might take others down with him. One of the most arrogant people to walk the planet.

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