5 Views on “Women Keep Silent' (1 Cor 14:35-36): Women in Ministry part 11

Some say we should remove it from the Bible.

Intro 0:00
9:26 The Take It Out of the Bible View
48:58 The Refutation View
1:34:51 The Education or Clatter View
2:05:56 The Strict View
2:24:44 The Judging Prophecy View
3:09:54 Conclusions

[CORRECTION: at 2:52:10 I said "office of prophet" when I meant to say "office of apostle."]

Others say the Bible is rejecting these statements about women, not endorsing them.

Others say this is why women shouldn't speak in church in any way, perhaps singing in the congregation is ok though.

Others say this is a prohibition on women as teachers during regular all-church services.

Others say this passage is about prophecy and who is supposed to participate in the judging of prophetic gifts, discerning whether those messages are from God.

It's hard to get around the idea that this passage seems to endorse complementarian or patriarchal views of gender roles. But we will explore various attempts to do so.

"As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak" 1 Corinthians 14:33-35

We'll examine all sides and dig deep to get as much clarity as I am able to offer on not only 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 but also how it applies to the topic of Women in Ministry.

After years of being a bit confused about the topic of women in ministry I set out to spend months researching the topic in great detail to produce this exhaustive teaching series on the topic. This is part 11.

You can also find more videos freely available on my website:

[khenbornagain]

How many women are spoken about in the Bible? How many times do they speak? When do they speak? When are their stories told and why? Notice it’s very specific times and situations where women’s stories take precedence in the Bible. Our silence is our power, our silence is our beauty, when women step back and place themselves in a position of humility and respect we become true gifts from God. It’s not a bad thing.

[lsjowmi]

My mom's prayers are so powerful she reads her bible almost every single day goes to church 3times a week she is 65 she has never been afended by her place in the church she understands by the spirit but don't underestimate i have witness God answer her prayer many times

[tinshield]

I love your show! Thank you for all of your hard word in breaking down these biblical tenets. I’m 56 years old and finally returned to Jesus after 40 years of being a wanton sinner. I finally realized how much Jesus loves me no matter my past. Your ministry is comforting, kind and intellectual. Thank you again friend. May god bless you.

[anca.mihaila]

Pastor Mike, I've been so blessed and encouraged by your series. As a woman who grew up in a very conservative eastern European culture and denomination, I have long struggled with wanting to more accurately understand and humbly live out my calling and obedience to Christ as a woman of faith and virtue. I no longer feel beaten down or bullied by misunderstood and misapplied texts taken out of context. I furthermore no longer understand my role as an outlier or lesser citizen of God's family or the church, and have joyfully embraced the loving call to submit to Christ and my Christ-honouring husband and the Biblical view of headship- with joy and no threat of being a second-rank citizen. I am so grateful for your gracious and thorough handling of these texts, as you've laid out this secondary doctrine with great care and love. That is so evident. Thank you for investing so much time- God is glorified and the church is blessed as it learns and flourishes, being established on a right foundation of truth.

[kararice]

Request for one more WIM video: we've spent a lot of time talking about what a woman's role is not, but it would be so helpful to hear teaching on what the feminine calling really is, in the church, marriage, parenting, the community, business, politics, etc.

Too often we assume malicious intent in women who struggle with these matters: they're rebellious, rad feminists who hate men, hate authority, and want to wield power. But so many women really raise questions out of genuine hurt and confusion. It can seem that the bible is teaching that men are necessarily morally/spiritually superior, hence why only they can have these positions of spiritual authority. Popular books like Lies Young Women Believe teach that women are more sinful. Are women less able to please God? Why would God create half the population to be more easily deceived/less rational/etc. as many people I've heard claim?

Women are starving for a biblical presentation of God's vision for womanhood. One that encompasses singles as well as wives. All I've ever heard from the pulpit on this subject is a stand-up routine about how the pastor's wife can always find his car keys. Fun story, I guess, but it's superficial. We really need something substantial here.

If we want women to embrace their role, we need to clearly define it and not just vaguely declare that it has equal value; we need to specifically demonstrate that value. I think Pastor Mike could do a great job of this. Thanks for your ministry!

[jerricautley]

"You can't say 'Jesus is Lord' and then despise the things he commands his church."

Wow. That line gave me chills. What a powerful truth this culture needs!!!

Let our hearts just be "yes Lord, if you said it, its true, it's good, and I'm gonna obey it"

[jackiecastleberry]

After Jesus resurrected, he showed himself to a woman, not the fearful doubting men!

[nervisgirl]

Felt this was such an anointed teaching. You are a blessing. (Thank you Lord for using this precious man to reach us who are infirm in body and confined at home and who are hungry for anointed biblical teaching Amen.)

[Debt-tective]

I used to be staunch in my beliefs and your approach is helping me come around and understand more richly what I already "knew". You've challenged and grown my beliefs and I sincerely appreciate that. Thank you for providing this content.

[perseverant]

I greatly appreciate the Mikeian style - both the puns and the accessibility of the in-depth teaching. Thanks again!

[thansUTube]

My wife and I are working through each of teaching videos in this series. We greatly appreciate all the work you put into it. Thank you and may our Lord bless you as you seek to bring clarity to the scriptures.

[Eleerai]

Finished this video in 3 days... Chewing and taking in. Many doubts and wrong assumptions are cleared out. Thank you so much Mike for your dedication and sincere teaching. God bless you.

[leahparker]

I am an introvert, so from walking into the church building on Sunday morning to walking out, saying zero words is no problem for me.

[katelynelizabeth]

I am glad that there is no restriction on women learning, because I believe I have now spent over 26 hours learning about women in ministry...and I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you, Pastor Mike!!

[BradAcquilin]

😂I truly laughed out loud when you reference putting the hardest part first on a YouTube channel. It speaks volumes to me that you care about the Word and not the monetary gain. I love you brother! Keep fighting the good fight!

[briankelsey]

I find it illuminating that you take three hours to explain the plain meaning of the text. Let me help: Women should be silent in church. The fact that this (difficult to accept} misogyny has to be so painfully renegotiated to be made acceptable under our current cultural morals pretty much tells the tale. That said, appreciate your work.

[thebakermaker]

When your phone goes off in church. You think, "it better be God calling". Notification for a Mike Winger video, that will do.

[neitonb]

Thank you for your willingness to serve pastor Mike.

[Rhonda-osmo]

I cried 😢 I am so relieved learning more teaching other women . I really restricted myself, I am so grateful to God for this video, teaching other women,
a woman from creations book store, Pam spoke to me about you 🙏 her family listens together ❤️

[Rebecca_DeVoll]

I'm really excited to dive into this. I was taught that women weren't supposed to be chattering in church, distracting others basically. And when they did feel called to speak in church they should do so under the covering and guidance/approval of their husband. Like if their was a woman teacher, her husband otta be senior pastor and backing up what she says etc. This view was never explained thoroughly to me so I'm excited I found this and can hear your teaching on the matter. I find a lot of fulfillment in serving my husband and family but i feel my counseling/nurturing nature isnt completely used up by them and I have leftover to give. Although I'd never want to counsel men, just women and children. I love your style of teaching and it really helps me