The Teutons - AoE2 vs History

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How historically accurate are civilizations in Age of Empires 2? In this video, I'll talk about the inspiration for the Teutons(bonuses, unique unit, techs), and how they relate to the Holy Roman Empire and the Teutonic Order.



Game: Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition, with Forgotten Empires, African Kingdoms, Rise the Rajas, and Last Khans expansions
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Why are their unique units so slow?


Because their armor weighs teu-tons

eccentrichorse
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Teutons : "Lalala, we can't hear you"
Lithuanians : "Leitis be a lesson for you"

-Raylight
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Last time I was this early, Barbarossa wasn't even in a barrel
yet

ramsessiereveld
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Spirit is basically:
A Historian
A Physicist
A Mathematician
A Musician
A Comedian
what a resume..

that he probably wont use cuz hes doing youtube

jetstar
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Lovely video :3 Some comments/corrections (from a german history student):
- Napoleon didn't dissolve the Holy Roman Empire. Kaiser/Emperor Franz II./I. dissolved it 1806, in fear Napoleon could get elected the next emperor. There was basically no legal base to do that, but after the Reichsdeputationshauptschluss (no, I will most certainly not try to translate that one) the empire was dead in its core anyway
- The order of teutonic knights had no direct tie to the Holy Roman Empire. They were however heavily funded by the "Staufern", Barbarossas family who reigned over the empire in high medieval times. So while the Johanniter and Templers were more connected to France, Italy and the Pope, the teutonic knights were in fact "german", even though they never had a rule that only germans could join the order. Funfact: From the three major crusader-orders, the teutonic knights were the only one "surviving" after the crusades, since they found a new calling in conquering the east, even though they failed in their mission.
- The teutonic knights were defeated in the east eventually. They converted their territory into an Herzogtum (can't remember the english word...duchery?) called Prussia/Preußen. Later this would be one of the main/base territories of the kingdom of Prussia, which in the end accomplished the unification of germany. So, in a way, the teutonic knights translated into the founding of Germany.
- The conversion resistence of the teutons could also be attributed to the multiple instances they got into a fight with the catholic church. The "Investiturstreit" was one of the major incidents in the medieval age in direct connection to the german king Heinrich/Henry IV. and the pope Gregor VII. Later on, the final break of the catholic church would also start from germany with Martin Luther
- Even though it was never as unified as France for example, the Holy Roman Empire wasn't entirely useless and/or powerless. Though after Friedrich II. (Barbarossas grandson) the role of the emperor was heavily weakened, it would take until the 18th century for him to become irrelevant. In that time period, some of the german states (like Prussia or Saxony) became to powerful to be contained by the Kaiser, who only held the title for political and traditional reason, since the reigning family of Habsburg(-Lothering) was in itself stronger than the Empire.

ottokarl
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"The Black Forest is actually in Germany"

AoE Fans rushing there to get a 2v2 real life AoE match going there

kanalkucker
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You mentioned the Goths...
We NEED an AoE 2 vs History for them. Did they really wear kevlar armor? Did they really not know how to build stone walls? And could they really wrestle a boar to death?

naphackDT
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One thing to note about the whole "Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, Roman, nor an Empire" joke. It's really came about from a misunderstanding from English historians, as the German word for Roman, "römisches" has two meanings, either literally Roman, or like Rome. The latter applies in this case as the Holy Roman Empire was designed to emulate Rome's government. Also the German word for empire, "Reich" can also translate to "Realm". Lastly, the Holy Roman Empire was "Holy" because the emperor had to be crowned by the Pope.

So you could say the Holy Roman Empire was "The Roman-like Realm sanctified by the Pope".

williamjeffery
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Everyone asks "Who are the Teutons?"

but no one asks "How are the Teutons?"

BigPapaKaiser
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9:36 A german here with a note: Black forest got translated to "dunkler Wald" ("dark forest") instead of "Schwarzwald".

Robert-vkje
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The Bohemians War Wagons are also shown in Age of Empires 3 as the German Unique Unit, the War Wagon.

Tomahawkaoe
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6:59 You can see the might of the Teutonic Knight as he single-handedly rams through a house and destroys it. Such fearsome warriors.

fahimzahir
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Greetings from the city of Aachen just one Kilometer from the former British Wonder :)

ManuProduktions
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The Holy Roman Empire is the perfect setting for medieval series, as you have way too many players, alliances, or shifting balances of power in one area to really offend someone over historical inaccuracies unless they specifically studied that region.

kirknay
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Finally, this video is just what i wanted, an explanation for their armour stat.

egopooky
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Two addtions from a german:

1st: When I visited my sister in the black forest (or in german Schwarzwald), I actually notice that the trees are very tall and stand very close to each other. Actually makes me wondering how the Britons actually gonna shot their arrows their. :D
2nd: 10:47 Actually it is not just an iconic symbol, but also still our official coat of arms (in a mordern version). :D
What you can see at the picture, is the eagle in our parliament. Although it represents the german eagle, we actually call it The Fat Hen - Die fette Henne - The Fat Chicken. Because that eagle definetely put on some weigth. :D

Gashahn
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Fun fact: one teutonic soldier had on helmet cooked sausages. Loved the vid

drweednose
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Nice video - as always. Just some notes:

1. Lack of light calvary upgrade can be tied to this that medieval German army lacked light calvary on their own. Especially during early period during Ludolfings they got poor scout abilities and focus mostly entariely on heavy calvary units. It is especially seen at battle of Cotrone in 972 or during Polish-German war 1015-1018.
2. I think when u said about units resist conversions u should also say about how many times Charles the Great went to Saxony to conquer it - it was 18 raids during 772-804 period known as Saxon Wars.
3. Saying about uncordinate armies... especially in early medieval they were known for high discipline and quiet good coordination. Problem is counting whole Germany as one state until 1867. Actually many states during medieval times were divided on many smaller states, like Russia, Poland, Norway, Italy, Switzerland, Spain and so on. When country is divided on smaller states ruled by different rulers it is hard to talking about one army.
4. Genoese crossbowmen fought as mercenaries in most medieval Europe. They are more known to be used by French, example battle of Crecy or battle of Sluis.
5. Lithuania was actually in most part christianised in 14th century - only they motherland was mostly pagans. Teutonic Order was attacking Lithuania cause its lands divided territories of Teutonic Order.

Feneghar
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Medieval Knights with their fantasy helmets were memers, before memes were invented :O

leylith
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I almost thought you wouldn't continue this series, glad it is still alive!
Would love to see Ethiopians, Khmer, Japanese or Celts next.

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