These Women Are Not Happy

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Chris asks Stephen J Shaw why so many women are childless in the modern world? Is population collapse really a concern? Why are so many women single? What is life like for women who wanted kids but never did?

#women #childless #populationcollapse

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I don't understand why so much discussion about this, I am not having kids because I don't want to.
It seems that the choice of not having children makes the people that have them furious and envious that we are not going through their same misery

myriamarturo
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When I was a teen, every adult gave us young girls the idea, that the worst thing that could ever happen to us was to get pregnant. Some of us avoided relationships out of fear of getting pregnant.

FrikaWies
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Worst advice I ever got was to wait until I was financially stable(not financially stable, what I really meant was wait until you have lots of money saved up. Financial stable to me really just means you have a decent job and place to live) to have kids. The problem with that is that that time never comes for most people. Also, it’s not as financially demanding to have kids as you might think. After the diaper stage, it gets a lot easier. Then if you have another kid shortly after, those expenses are much much less because you already have baby clothes and baby stuff. People tend to over think these things. The best option is to say F-it and just go for it and take things as they come. Being a father was the best thing to happen to me.

smelltheglove
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Conservative messaging for women -
'You need to take responsibility for your actions. Don't have children if you know you can't afford to support them and certainly don't expect the state to help if you do! Don't pick loser men that you know you won't be happy with later'


'Having no money or poor housing is NOT an excuse! People have been having children forever without much money! Our grandparents and ancestors just made-do with what they had. They made it work, so why aren't you? You should have kids now. Nevermind instability! There'll never be the right guy or the right time!


'Why did you settle for such a loser?? Why did you have kids when you knew your life wasn't stable yet?? When you knew he wasn't the right one for you?! Don't expect us to help you now!!!'

Basically women, everything is our fault. It's our fault if we delay motherhood, often for perfectly good reasons, and then STILL our fault if we dare give birth in circumstances that are any less than perfect.

RedArtistx
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My baby girl will be born in the next week. My wife is 23 and I am 26. We are not rich but she drives us to work so hard and we love her so much already.

jamesball
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I am 34 with no children and that’s one of the best decisions I ever made. It is better to live to be 100 and regret never having children than to have children you never wanted to raise and adapt for.

A_Muzik
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What annoys me is this:

If a man doesnt have kids, other men tell him "oh good for you bro, you dodged a bullet, smart move."

But if a woman doesnt have children, its "oh what a waste, what are you even doing with your life"

LauraReed-wuww
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If a woman hasn't got a baby at 30, there's a 50% chance she will never have one.

Wow, that hit hard.

bell
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Some of us don't really want to have kids, let us do whatever we want
Thank you

megustaelchocolate
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Most child free ppl really don’t want them. Mother hood is glorified and the truth is never told. Live your life ladies!

sinceresinclair
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I am a single and childfree 37 year old South African female 🇿🇦. I grew up in a single parent household and poor. I always thought that my mom would have a lot more money if my siblings and me were not born. I did everything in my power to finish school and got a job. I work as an expat in a foreign country and I make good money. I will never forgo that to get married or have children. I am content with being single, lonely but financially comfortable.

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As a mother I love my child to bits, but motherhood is not all it’s cracked up to be and that’s the dirty secret women hide, even from themselves. I realise now that I’d be just as satisfied in life if I was childless.

joygibbons
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As a counselor I have to say the amount of clients I have with severe mental health problems due to abusive parents is heartbreaking.
Women do well to be picky about the father of their child, because when you are a young mother you're very vulnerable and an abusive partner can easily destroy you and the child.
Having a child isn't like having a car. We give life to a human being and we care for that person more than for anything or anyone else in the world. Of course we want the best father we can find.
Point is, what makes a good father? Imagine you die at childbirth and he has to raise the newborn by himself. That's how you know if he's a good man to have a child with. Someone who won't yell at the baby for keeping him awake all night. Someone willing to put his own needs and interests behind those of a person he loves. Someone able to have no time off for years. Someone who's willing to learn.
And if you can't find that kind of person, then I personally find you very responsible for not having a child.
There's also a lot of children that need a loving parent by the way. Fostering and adoption are forms of parenthood, too. So if a woman can't get pregnant, this doesn't mean she will never be a mother.

helgaioannidis
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I’m one of those odd ducks: never had the urge for children. Several years into menopause now, I’m so happy I don’t have to worry about pregnancy anymore 😊. To each their own!

marymissmary
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32yo woman here. I always thought I would become a mother, but when I let go of that plan, 90% of my anxiety is gone! I would get married, but I don't want to have children. The chance of becoming a single mother (even while married) is real. The man could leave or die. I don't want to have a "special" kid and leave them in this world w/o me. I don't want my quality of life to drop significantly just to become a mother. I don't want to increase suffering on the planet.

Amethyst
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I am pregnant now at 40. The reason I got pregnant only now, not only because I focused on my career, it's because it took me a long time to find a man who shared the same values and goals as me and was ready to take a relationship seriously enough to build a f
amily together.

MrJo
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Lots of women don't want kids because they realize it's a lot of work for the woman due to lazy fathers. Don't gloss over the fact that there are a lack of suitable males and women are sick of doing the bulk of the work. We all watched our mothers, aunts, grandmothers do everything while the fathers sit around and act like domestic work is beneath them.

DecenterMen
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A large number of men refuse to commit to a relationship until well into their 30's. There are countless couples delaying childbearing because they (men) are not ready yet. Whenever men with this ideological profile talk about delayed childbearing and declining fertility they end up painting the picture of a frivolous, superficial woman who delays childbearing to have a good time until it is too late. We have an infantilised, individualistic and hedonistic society with the possibility of birth control as never before and this affects men and women. Women delay having children to study and protect themselves financially and men delay Much more because their fertility window is longer and they want to avoid monogamy, responsibility and pressure for as long as possible. That is a part of the reality and to not talk about this is to leave 50% of the problem out of the conversation. You are talking about having children as if it wasn’t a matter of two

Alison-lhoq
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I’m 44 and childfree I knew I never wanted children… motherhood isn’t for everyone.

wendywatkins
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So two men are sitting down telling us how terrible and lonely its going to get because you chose not to be baby trapped 😭. 😂Bruh, producing children just so they can go through the same shit I went through is bs. No kids=Autonomy, it is my choice and as an individual it is totally fine.

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