Angular’s Third Era is…weird

Angular is...quite the framework. Not my favorite thing but that doesn't mean you should ignore the innovation happening over there.

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S/O Ph4se0n3 for the awesome edit 🙏

[elephant_]

"Is This The End Of Angular?" I want to be able to trust your titles man.
I don't like or dislike Angular, but I loathe click-bait titles.😞

[nixoncode]

c'mon Theo, we're beyond clickbaits at this point, the video is interesting and I'll probably watch it. just title it correctly

[ToastRusk]

I clicked on the button for signals as you suggested and sadly got unsubscribed :(

[alvaromady]

Angular is actually better than before especially recently

[AngularUniversity]

Great video. 👍 At a certain you mention that Angular is slow. I'm not sure if this is widely known outside of Angular, but that is not the case nowadays. On the bundle size side, Angular allows you to easily lazy load every single page of an application in a easy and developer friendly way with standalone components, just use loadComponent in the router and that's it, the screen runs on a separate bundle. If you want you can also load parts of the template of a component conditionally using @defer. For example, load a PDF generating library only if a button is clicked. On the change detection side there are no significant performance differences to other frameworks, especially with OnPush and also with default change detection. Soon with signal-based change detection there will be full blown fine-grained reactivity. 👍

[_____case]

Wiz was designed by Malte Ubl, who is now the CTO of Vercel.

[MikkelSkovgaardPetersen]

"The flexibility of React..." yea that died with nextjs. React has turned into the thing it advertised not to be a long time ago.

[JPeetjuh]

Please, just title your video "Angular is merging with Wiz?" - I'll watch it. Stop being so cheap and clickbaity.

[varagor]

As and Angular dev, it's really exciting to finally start getting a bunch of W's after years of stagnation. The last year and a half has been wild and looks like there's plenty more to come.

[SquelpDiscovery]

YouTube’s mobile web is so outdated, I’m really surprised they bothered updating it lol. YouTube mobile web feels like it hasn’t been updated in years.

[seannewell]

Theo whatchu talkin about for unproven at 16:40 ? Knockout observable and computeds anyone? MVVM? SolidJS for years and years?

We don't need a YT case study to "prove signals" bruv; we also don't need a redux or RTK for signals, afaik. They just are such a profoundly good primitive that you can create your own boundaries naturally with composition and normal patterns (DDD/MVVM/Composition).

Just like huge state machines / RTKs/reducers/webs of interconnected state all break down, signals are the same - it comes down to system arch and design to keep it scalable.

Signals are much closer to events than state, and events in the browser are king. Video games often stop at events and polling frame by frame.

Long live signals

[teamgartz-motorsports]

The bundle size is not about network, it’s about the memory available on the devices that consumes it. Usually the processor for the browser is different from the one that process the video, and TVs and other devices highly cheap out on the processor and memory to execute browser. Therefore a smaller bundle and less instructions are a huge win in performance, more than network transfer.

[BlockCylinder]

They're definitely going to lay off 60% of both teams.

[recycledsoldier]

I actually like Angular. BUUUUT I'm a C# engineer with a lot of experience with RDMBS and C#. Something about Angular really clicks with me where React just seems overly complex. I'm not saying React is bad. I was actually contracted to work on a massive React project but the project layout and all of the different folders and things to implement state management seemed needlessly complex. I will say that I was able to start a mini project and ended up using a vertical slice architecture over React and it made the project much easier. I think my biggest problem was just project sprawl. "Ok, no go here and edit the reducer. Go here to edit actions. Go here to edit tests. Go over here for sagas. Now go over here, etc." Again, for someone used to it, I'm sure it's great, but as someone coming in fresh it was really overwhelming.

I plan to stick with learning React and hoping I hit that "click" moment since that's where all the jobs are but I'm really happy to see Angular getting some much-needed love.

Thanks for covering it!

[StephenMoreira]

Very happy with Angular. Looking forward to even more innovations.

[zapphoddbubbahbrox]

you've really got wonderful editors... be proud

[freonable]

I'm (mostly) an Angular dev and I watch your stuff to keep up to date with the wider FE landscape. It's really cool to see you talking about Angular at the minute because it does feel like an exciting time for the framework and I think it would be a shame if creators ignored it just because it's Angular.

[tehArgento]

The subscribe button did indeed not change

[aLfRemArShMeLlOw]

Youtube mobile might be a very small percentage of their traffic, but it's probably still a massive amount of traffic compared to most websites.

[angularrocks]

Angular Rocks 🤘
p.s the use of signals was discussed back in 2015 withing an Angular Team, proposed by Rob Eisenberg, who was part of the team at that time.