Our HONEST thoughts on the WING Console...We're not fans.

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[richardprigge]

As someone who never mixed on a console until serving at church 4 years ago on an x32 and then switched to the Wing, I found the Wing to be easier and more intuitive than the x32 in the initial setup. The x32 may be more like an industry standard workflow, but as just some guy off the street, the Wing was much easier to learn routing and setup. I think it's non traditional, but I'm not a traditional user.

[markgabbidon]

I don’t usually leave comments on videos but this mixer is the best purchase I have ever made in a long time. I am so impressed with the design of the mixer and the flexibility and quality sounds built in. The only thing I can say is that they could have had a default setting where when I turn the mixer on it easy to use out of the box. You do have to set it up initilly but once you are done that’s it. No other console in this price range or even more expensive comes close. I strongly disagree with almost everything said in this video.

[cli]

Always great to hear unfiltered critiques.

[Churchfront]

If you spend $3, 000 on a console other than the WING in 2021, you are misinformed and wasting money.

LOL JUST KIDDING. This video triggered me so I'm gonna trigger people with this comment. But on a serious note, it took me about a month to understand what Behringer was trying to do with this console. I agree at first it took me a day or two to get a hang of configuration and wrapping my mind around the sources/channels workflow. Frustrating at first but once my mind was able to shift with the new paradigm of this board, I love it.

Now I've used it for 4 months in a week to week church setting and I think you get much more value out of this console than others in the same price range. More buses, crazy amount of plugins, autotune works fine for live vocals, etc. We haven't experienced any of the screen glitches. But wouldn't surprise me if there are some lemons.

Would love to hear your opinion on this if you used it in a real-life situation for a few weeks. It's almost like it needs 2-3 months of getting used to this consoles new paradigm. And I don't think that's because it's poor UI (although there are some room for improvements). I think it has more to do with how they've innovated the workflow that requires a new mindset.

[ihavefeet]

I’ve found that the upgrade in sound quality is immense compared to the x32, plus the ability to have multiple stereo channels has made the console an absolute dream to work on.
Maybe it’s because I watched a fair few videos before buying it, but I found the interface really simple to get to grips with- and now that I have all my sources patched, it’s actually easier for volunteers to do patching than before because there are so many more inputs and ways to patch them (for example sometimes we run click from the drums, sometimes from the keys- I have the click channel on the board setup to get the input from the drums, but then you tap the alt button and it will use the click input from the keys)

[JoshMcKenna]

Interestingly, anecdotally, patching has been EASIER and more intuitive for a number of our newest volunteers to learn on the WING than on the M32 series we use everywhere else. As tempted as I would be to move toward the TF series or similar in the price range, moving all our stage boxes over to a new console ecosystem is where it gets crazy. I’m sad to say that Behringer had us a little trapped with either an M32 or WING for the foreseeable future.

Great review, great training content, and — as always — great perspective on tech through the lens of stewarding well as we glorify God. Thanks MxU team for your hard work on all this!

[kennethching]

I found it totally different, it’s much easier to get up and running

Compare to a digico or Yamaha sq, as well as QL

I wish you have screen shots in the video to explain the the problems u were facing

[briankilpatrick]

Just a FYI from a software engineer, good design ABSOLUTELY cost money. Project hours = $$$ and often compromises are made.

[mrovi]

The screen issue is known, needs to be sent out for free replacement.

[kronik]

I haven't used this console a ton, and generally do so as a volunteer at my church. I generally mix on an SQ at another campus but sometimes will fill in, and OMG I absolutely love working with the wing.
Granted, I also love using reaper, and play with linux so maybe I'm just used to complex systems with tons of customizability but this really delivers in that area. I feel like you could set the wing up to be used very differently depending on what you are trying to do, and the customizable routing allows for so much more flexibility than I've had with other consoles in this price range. While I will agree that it is initially confusing, I feel like this is one of the most flexible and customizable boards I've ever used and I just love that about it.

[ChurchTechTalks]

I appreciate your honest review on this. Although the thing I kept thinking the whole time was: this sounds exactly like the early reviews of the X32. Now, back then, the next closest console in feature set was 10X the price and that just isn’t the case any more. It will be interesting to see how this product develops on the software front. GUI’s can change, so I think it has a lot of potential still.

[SergiuTopan]

We own at our Church the Wing console. After you get used to gui it's very easy to use. And you forgot to mention one big advantage of the console. Every input and output can be stereo so lets say you can have 12 stereo busses for in ear and 4 buses for effects.

[germanboza]

We’ve using the Wing for half a year now, and I have to say I love it. It’s true that at first it can be a bit intimidating and hard to setup, but once you learn it this thing it’s a beast. You should not compare it against other consoles in the same price range, but to something that offers similar features. Those professional level consoles are also not so easy to learn.

[MrTrio]

Thanks Lee For Giving us your HONEST opinion. 👍🏽💯

[magoostus]

I'm waiting for the "M32C" rack mount equivalent to the wing, I want the dsp, I don't really care about having faders or that "iffy" touch screen

[kurtiswalsh]

Lee, thanks for taking the time to do the review. However at times I found myself questioning how much time you put in with this console before videoing this series. Felt like you missed some important stuff like the ability to reorder the signal path by channel. Also missing the ability to have buses as channel inputs, meaning that FX don't need to be inserted on the bus and you can have FX return channels. All in all I think you did a good job of unpacking the features of the console though. It is a challenging console since there is so little documentation.

As much as I love working on this console it pains me to say this console is not for everyone. The Wing is so customizable that it can be easy to get into the weeds. However, this is also the best part of this console. The ability to setup a workflow that is exactly what you want.

The Wing is a new way of doing digital mixers. Will be interesting to see if it takes flight.

[Wilptiz]

I agree, setup was a pain but it did not take long to re-train my brain and once that was done this thing packs a lot of bang for your buck in here. I mix 3 services a week on this console for the past year and I would not want another board in this price point now that I have it dialed in.

[cark]

I appreciated the review. This guy makes some good points. Would love to hear from the perspective of a pro mixer and not church beginners though.

[jackfender]

I am an avid Digico user. And our main auditorium setup is with a soon to arrive Q5 with for Fourier and an sd12 for broadcast with Klang for Monitors.

I purchased a wing for our college ministries mobile rig. The mobile rig was already integrated with all behringer and Midas stuff. And it’s a rig we use 10
Times a year. I knew the wing capabilities were higher on paper than just about everything in the price range.

I’ve spent the last 4 days or so diving deep into the console and learning it and I have to say I agree and dis-agree with Lee. I needed a mobile console in a $5000 price line that was going to be able to have the flexibility of a Digico. To be able to do virtual sound checks, separate in-ear processing, and waves superrack performer. This was the only option that fit the bill out the box. And once I got it setup, it was super fun to mix on! I was able to re create my Digico template on a behringer and control waves as well via midi and I came out with a mix that I was actually really happy with. Crazy world! But the navigation and difficulty it took to figure it out is just out of this world.

Overall, I think the wing is the perfect option for the situation I described. But to a small or mid size or even larger church that doesn’t have an audio or systems engineer with the experience to build from scratch, I would for sure not recommend this console. And if you have someone with the experience, then you probably have the budget to be in Digico territory 😉.

[Zazquatch]

Honesty from a pro is what is essential.