LoL Math - Thornmail vs. Sunfire Cape

Today we compare the cost-effectiveness of the stats and damage dealing effects of Thornmail and the Sunfire Cape.

[wz]

its calculated before armor reduction.

[mylolzers]

I don't get it... You want too deal damage with thornail, but you build armor so they cant deal as much damage to you, which means the thornail Passover

[Dredbrnger]

But then again, Shen wants to splitpush, which makes Sunfire great on him.

[doombybbr]

but if you are tanking a group you will be hit by more autoattacks hence thornmail will still benefit, and amumu does %health as dps, to maximise that damage it is better to get a rabadons.

[MrAaronPH]

my god, ive spoken english since i was 3, and i have a hard time keeping u with you. great vid but please talk slower

[ClanKeXOficial]

Maybe for champions as Rammus or Shen, with their taunts, thornmail is quite more effective, as their role in teamfights is attacking a singular enemy, (more effective in AD objectives), maximazing the total damage income.

But champions are Renekton, Amumu... with a base ability that grants damage per second for all the unities surrounding, it could be more interesting to maximize that damage by using a sunfire cape.

So, at the end, it's a matter of Singular Tanking Vs. Grupal Tanking.


:D

[Syberz]

For thornmail to be more cost effective, armor would have to be more cost effective than health?

Can you do a video on this?

[Hyo]

always get both on Rammus. ALWAYS. and it pays off. you deal so much damage just for existing. even more with your W up. getting Raduin or Frozen heart is not worth it, because it will reduce your enemy's atk speed and therefore reduce how many times he atks you, therefore reducing your damage returning.

[sciencemon]

all this time i thought sunfire's range was melee range so i never bought it. now i have a reason to buy one :D

[mrbatistabomb]

you are graves you dont want your enemies to get hp and armor

[LazyScaper]

If you build enough armor for 80% reduction, and a champion autoattacks you with 500 damage per hit, you will take 100 damage, thornmail will reflect 150, if the enemy champion is a carry with only about 30% reduction then he will take 105 damage. In the end damaging himself more then the enemy (ofcourse if the enemy champion has lifesteal he will heal up a big chunk of the damage)

[skkid]

And sunfires has health. health is op.

[canucksfaninthehouse]

AS or AD Marks on level 1 jungle routes

[ssor]

I would appriciate seeing a video of building of pure attack damage vs attack speed vs a good combination of both...mainly regarding Vi and her passive W skill

[Kryox]

can u do one about health runes?
flat health runes, per lvl runes or %max health runes

[HeightenedIntuition]

Hybrid for sure :o since your enemy's will or stack allot of armor or magic resist so Hybrid would be the best off the 3 I think

[patrickandwarrenshow]

will trinity forve give you TONS OF DAMAGE??

[MegaFroschi]

Hard ones? like the other things, who everyone is to lazy to use the calculator? ^^ Sorry but not everything what i wrote wasnt unknowen to me and these r not so standard as u think ^^
I think its still a test worth it or a calculation because if its really standard (like u said) then its more importent to bring this as well under the ppl. (sorry for my bad english btw) =P
but still thank u =)

[Sonnyrazer]

hybrid, because of his scaling and his ultimate he is most effective as a hybrid, i also think this way with kayle because you get a decently alrge aoe and more damage from the Ap

[IsmailTaleb]

and is the heal+spellvamp from ap kayle better than lifesteal from ad kayle? or hybrid kayle with heal + spellvamp + lifesteal? :=)