Toshiba Satellite Pro C660 - no power repair - The world is changing and i don't think i like it

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You're totally right, older laptop designs are way better in terms of repairability. But nowadays, even the most honest manufacturers followed the dark path opened by Apple and many others, realizing that planned obsolescence is a very strong concept and a good source of income.

silvake
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This is exactly why I still use my Toshiba Tecra A8 as my main laptop and why I bought a Toshiba Portege Z30T-C from 2016 a couple of years ago for doing some other higher-end engineering work. Nothing beats Toshiba for quality and reliability.

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A customer brought me one of these with two broken USB ports for repair. I bought a working C660 i3 from eBay this month for £50 which included an SSD, 6GB RAM, Windows 11 and Office 2019. At that price not worth repairing the old one ;) The SSD is well worth it, speeds the laptop up a lot.

timsteele
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you know Sorin.... I'm still using a Sony Vaio VPCSA (from 2011 - back then it was $1200+) because it's made of Magnesium and Aluminum chasis and a carbon fiber back screen (not a crappy flimsy plastic like the moderen laptops design) .. it's a 13.3" HD+, Core i7 2nd Gen 3Ghz Dual Core.. 12GB Ram 512 Lif Raid 0 SSD + 2TB HDD running Windows 11 Pro 23H2 with no problems at all... "OLD BUT GOLD"

NBMSCH
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Simplicity is the essence of everything.

lablackzed
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nice video, and i totally agree with you Sorin. not long ago we had reliability, repairability and function over form, nowadays we have sealed batteries, soldered ram modules and ssd's, and proprietary software that can render your device useless, but hey at least we got shiny screens with a billion colors and paper thin devices...with an expiration date

mikimouse
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Happened to me many times with shortened keyboards (water damage). When I have no power on, I disconnect the battery, ram, touchpad and keyboard until I get something. I was not surprised! 😊

arielmo
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I have a Lenovo gaming laptop from this era and it's day and night compared to the new ones. Standard barrel charger, a few screws to take out the keyboard, removable battery, the back has openings for wifi, disc, CPU, you can upgrade the RAM, HDD and so on.

westsenkovec
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I have three laptops toshiba A-300, two with independent graphics card and they are over ten years old here in Greece we call them dogs of war.Oldschool forever.I'm with you 100% professor Sorin.

sachatack
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I once repaired a satellite pro p200, and literally fell in love with it, at the point I was refusing to sell it, a pain to dismantle, but beautiful.

Bogdan.Benett
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OMG, I'm using that very same laptop for university. It's manufacturing date is 2011. It had an issue where it wouldn't turn on after many years of not using. The issue was in the power supply. Sooo easy fix, just swap power cord and psu, and done. Very glad the case was that simple. And also, I very rarely hear laptops stop working beacuse of fault from psu. Old but gold

Jovan-znkc
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There was definitely a "sweet spot" era where laptops (and Desktops) were standardizing key components and were normally repairable. The early early laptops from Compaq, before standard modules and interfaces, it was the wild wild west! In those early days with no standards it was a real test of skills to sort out all those ASICs and PLCs and proprietary memory configurations. I don't miss those days, but I agree moving forward is looking more and more fragile and troublesome.

kennymanchester
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I have a Medion which I bought around 10 years ago. Still running Windows 7. Have spilt sherry over the keyboard twice. Apart from 2 or 3 sticky keys, it still works to this day lol

tiggydorset
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😂 bravo sir thank you very much I been dreading having to fix A old in New condition Toshiba s955 that I fixed then as I finished booting started looking through it just shut off no light nothing dead I thought motherboard... but keyboard was faulty so I'm almost 100% sure this is the issue your a wizard sir

rookiexreviews
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Those C660 units are something of a "pinnacle" for repairability POV & it's all gone to the dogs since then. It's commercial pressure to minimise thinness, combine as much functionality into the fewest chips. Once I accidentally (honest!) threw a Toshiba Sat pro 4270 out of my car onto the tarmac & it carried on working ok, a few scuffs

daffyduk
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I had that too with the same model, but with white color, I even installed MacOS Catalina on it, those were the days. THanks Zorin!

litemint
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It's true. 2010 through 2012 era ThinkPad machines are the most reliable computers i have ever owned.

express
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I read a long time ago an answer that I liked. Here I transcribe it verbatim: "Manufacturing companies have "forgotten" the concept: We need to build a functional, durable product, appreciated (valued) by its owner and that when it breaks down, the basic knowledge of applied physics, allow us to solve it, in a simple, logical and as affordable way as possible". All the best.

carlosgarciaoropeza
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You're 100% right, notebooks got cheaper (for manufacturers) and worst for us consumers, all in an attempt to make it break more and people needing to buy more. That's how our world is going on, we are being charged for everything, soon our laptops, smartphones maybe will be on a subscription plan LOL, that's their dream.

Tribes
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I agree with Sorin that some elements of old computers were realy nice, like changeable batteries, RAM and HDD. Even CPUs were socketed and could be upgraded.
The answer to "what was wrong with old design" is the manufacturing costs. They cut the costs. And that's why we have all soldered, non-changeable and cheap.

kiwichess