‘Artificial Intelligence is a misnomer’ - Sir Roger Penrose

Sir Roger Penrose is a mathematical physicist who has changed the way we see the universe. He won the Nobel Prize for Physics in 2020 for his work on black holes.

He tells Krishnan about how he wasn’t top of the class in maths at school, talks about his relationships with Steven Hawking and MC Escher and tells Krishnan why he thinks Artificial Intelligence is a misnomer.
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[sumayyabhorat]

i admire Sir Roger Penrose's willingness to acknowledge that our knowledge is incomplete given his accomplishments... reflects his total commitment to the truth... much, much respect!

[scholrshipExplore]

The clarity in his conversation makes you listen him forever.

[rickcoyne]

Roger is my all time favorite Physicist. He faces the Reality that there are missing knowledge of the Quantum Wave Function and Collapse. He is such a forward thinking person he will go down in History as one of the greatest Scientific minds the world has ever produced. Thank you for Posting this wonderful Video.

[DarkShroom]

love this guy, he's confident enough to make everything he says very clear and even give explanations in a very short and to the point manner.... a great communicator

[rodatwhodesign]

A tantalizing subject to listen to, but a topic notoriously difficult to even define. Twenty-six minutes isn't nearly enough time to cover the ideas being spoken about...great, as ever, to have these interviews online. Thanks.

[ollywright]

One of humanity's greatest thinkers.

[TurtleMC]

A.I doesn't need "consciousness" to be a threat

[davidecappelli]

I think Sir Penrose is a brilliant mind. He speaks after a life of studying. He’s a real scientist.

[MLB]

The part where he talks about Artificial Intelligence is the shortest bit, so naturally that's what they put in the title.

[firecatflameking]

Such a comforting person to listen to!

[QualeQualeson]

"It's difficult to get your mind around". Ehh, next question... ;) What I like about Penrose is that he says "I don't know" and "I have no idea" on a regular basis. I challenge you to observe the same in someone like Sean Carroll for example.

[shabzone]

When he said he was back at England after the war, I was thinking how many people can still refer to WW2 like that?

Also love his cardigan.. looks like someone who can science very well.

[akumar]

Sir Roger Penrose is a national treasure, a wonderful mind.

[neilcreamer]

I wish more physicists shared Penrose's insight that there's something wrong about QM. Maybe in a hundred years he will be seen as ahead of the game about this.

[ah]

Amazing man. Always such a pleasure to listen to him.

[geoffreynhill]

Sir Roger knows that our computers don't think the way WE think, only the way we THINK we think. 😉

[thekeysman]

Great questions, Krishnan! And what a lovely, clever, and sharp minded man Roger is. So inspiring. At 49, I wish to still be as bright as him if I get to his age. Thank you Sir Roger. 🙏

[NullStaticVoid]

being ADHD and dyslexic I've always struggled with tests.
Which as they touch upon here, mostly rely on rote memorization and regurgitation.
When I got into college I had a few courses which instead of giving you such an exam, would instead verify your knowledge by asking you to "do" the thing.
One class asked you to code a simple CGI script that redirects reads and writes to different places.
Another test was to write a counterpoint to a cantus firmus using medieval rules for harmony.
If you had asked me what command does XYZ I might get half those questions right.
But ask me to code something, I have the BASH interface (or KSH at that university) with it's man pages, Tab autocomplete etc.
Likewise with harmony if you ask me to say what such and such chord would be on a staff, I might only get half those right.
Ask me to do something with music and give me a guitar or bass to figure it out, no problem.
A couple guys who sat that counterpoint test brought in guitars. I brought my bass.
One fellow brought a little casio keyboard!

As far as consciousness, I think this is a bit of human chauvinism. We think we are unique because we are self aware. We are doing a thing, and we know we are doing the thing.
Theris not real mystery here. It's obviously a self correcting feedback circuit in our CNS.
This is quite like an op amp feedback loop to linearize the gain.
Or like a computer code conditional loop, such as for/each.
Mammals or hominids (depending when this developed) that had this feature would have an advantage over their cousins in certain circumstances.
They could monitor their own behavior and modify it, instead of just reacting to stimuli.

There is also the question, are humans unique in this?
All the youtube videos of dogs and other animals using talking buttons seems to call this into question.
Dogs especially seem to be aware.
One video had a dog asking "why dog" which in context was taken to mean, why am I a dog, and not a human like you?

[theclouddiver]

Wow, Sir Roger Penrose. This is as good as it can get!

[corneldiaconu]

Time passed by so quick watching this interview, that I was really surprised when it ended.