How Old Is The Hebrew Bible || Russell Gmirkin

How old is the Hebrew Bible?
Russell Gmirkin is an independent researcher specializing in the composition of the Torah (or Pentateuch, the first five books of the bible: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy) as well as the Dead Sea Scrolls. He is most well known for his defense of the view that the Pentateuch was written in its entirety by a team of Jewish scholars working in the Library of Alexandria in 273-272 BCE, who also published the Septuagint Greek translation of the Torah around the same time. This is a much later date of composition than has been traditionally accepted, although a significant minority of scholars now support his Hellenistic dating of the Pentateuch.

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Get Russell Gmirkins works

Berossus and Genesis, Manetho and Exodus:
Hellenistic Histories and the Date of the Pentateuch
​(New York-London: T&T Clark, 2006)

Plato and the Creation of the Hebrew Bible
​(London-New York: Routledge, 2017)

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[rickelmonoggin]

I find Russell's idea compelling. The Old Testament feels to me like something that was a product of the Hellenistic age. The strongest objection I've encountered to his idea is that if he's right you might expect to find some Greek loan words in the Hebrew text and there supposedly isn't. I'd like to hear what he thinks about that.

[sherifaljeddawy]

Salutes from Egypt Derek, keep it up scratching this huge mythical overlay that took over our minds & souls.

[SuddenStorm]

This will be a freak out for Rabbi Singer 😁

[jamesstepp]

Your podcast is quickly becoming my favorite. You are an excellent interviewer, you have very interesting guests, and I love your passion. Thank you for what you’re doing! Keep up the great work, man.

[HolyRainbowism]

Another great show, Derek. I think it’s time christianity would pull their head out of the Bible and look at it from outside in.

[DavidCohen]

Hey dude, just wanted to say thank you for constantly bringing incredible guests who are sharing this info, much appreciated.

[mthokozisilanga]

Derek, you are magic bro. You know, I have been stuyding the Hebrew religion because it is my belief that if you want to destroy both the myths of Christianity and Islam, you have to hit them in the head. And the head is the origins of the Hebrew religion. I am now studying the history of the Hebrew language, a book with the exact name Angel Saenz-Badillos(sorry for mispelling the name of the author). For the same reason. And now you brought Russel Gmirkin as a source of my research. You are so far the best youtube channel I have subcribed to. To rock bro.👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿❤️

[christinepreston]

Re Berossus, a priest of MARDUK, who in the Babylonian myth fights a battle with the demon Tiamat, it's essentially the same as Archangel Michael fighting a Red Dragon and casting it on earth which also is reminiscent of his being ordered to bind the Watchers in chains in the bottomless pits in the Book of Enoch. Tiamat is mentioned as Tehom, the Deep, in Genesis 1, and the Spirit of God hovering over those waters are the Adam of Light seen by the Archons with a similar description.. in the Nag Hammadi text 'On the Origin of the World'.

[naejttenroc]

I would love to read Gmirkin's books but they now cost a fortune. How can we get them at reasonable prices?

[janusatthegate]

If an earthquake shatters your gods, it wasn't the quake. It was my god.

[patricktilton]

What's Gmirkin's explanation for the differing chronologies given in the LXX and the Hebrew texts of GENESIS? If the original texts were written by Jews in Alexandria, why would they have the Patriarchs' lineage have different sets of numbers (i.e. from Creation to the Flood to Abraham) in the Greek version and Hebrew version? Shouldn't they have been the same all along?

[janusatthegate]

The Greeks used their gods/goddesses to symbolize humanity. It was not that separate; mostly nature.

[SuddenStorm]

Russell gives a new meaning to the word de-constuction. Brilliant work !

[c.a.martin]

Derek do a show on modern Israel, demonstrate how the nation came about through the Balfour Declaration and lord Rothschild. Ask questions like when did they repent as a nation? Who makes up the population of Israel? Why are they secular and predominately atheists? Just do an in depth study and find someone who has studied this subject. This is important because much of Christianity and religious Judaism both place a heavy emphasis on the return of Israel to the land. But what if this isn't the case and wouldn't that make their faith and especially eschatology fall apart?
Just for the record I'm not anti Semitic, and truth is truth whether we like it or not.

[joyceruserious]

Excellent Show my friend, There's still a lot of indoctrination to overcome in the world, one click at a time hopefully. A click or the popping sound, ya know what I mean.

[ddrse]

The Bible is literature. Some people idolize it. They're called idolaters

[Wrathful]

Hate to be that guy but David was not the first king of Israel. Saul was before him and constantly tried to have him assassinated because he knew God was trying to replace him with David. I'm not a Christian but any Christian critic who heard that would immediately dismiss this guy "Oh, he doesn't even know the bible, he hasn't read it, David wasn't the first king of Israel" and so forth. We have to be extremely careful to get all of our information exactly right because any error no matter how minor Christians will use to say "See? This argument doesn't hold up. The guy doesn't know what he's talking about."

[annalyon]

Russ, you deserve a TED Talk platform! So fascinated by your research, your thought process, and I wish I could afford your books! Sometimes, as an atheist, I think the field of religious studies might be seen as pointless, but it is human history, and has so much to contribute to understanding our past and our psychology. Recently now I have time to read and think, been reviewing Elaine Pagels, Bart Erhman, and your colleague in Europe (sorry, name escapes me)…nerd-play…andThank you Mr. Lambert for providing Mr. Gmirkin this platform!

[JohnA]

My 2 cents: Derek I think the line "We are Mythvision" would work really well over the Mythvision clip. Done with heavy sound effects, reverb or echo or something of that nature.

[janusatthegate]

Goliath must have had his helmet off or the stone would not have hit him in the nose/forehead.