Ukraine, Metamodernity and Hypermodernity, with Lene Rachel Andersen

A further conversation arising from the Perspectiva anthology:

Lene Rachel Andersen is a philosopher from Denmark and the author of multiple books. Details of Lene's work can be found here
and her recent projects include The Nordic Secret here:
and Nordic Bildung here:

Due to events in Ukraine on the day of recording, we ended up speaking about Ukraine, but the conversation did touch on themes from Lene's chapter, *But Do You Have a Vegetable Garden? Cultural codes and the preconditions for a successful metamodern economy* which is described as follows:

In ‘But Do You Have a Vegetable Garden? Cultural codes and the preconditions for a successful metamodern economy’, philosopher, author of The Nordic Secret (with Tomas Björkman), Both/And, Metamodernity, and Bildung, Lene Rachel Andersen offers the contours of a new economic model inspired and informed by metamodernity that takes the best from the ‘four main cultural codes’ of human history, prehistoric indigenous, premodern, modern and postmodern, each with its unique kind of economy.

The underlying principle is to model the economy on life, manifest as patterns of evolving self-organising complex systems, with Andersen describes as ‘loops’; ‘multitudes of parallel loops within loops allow systems that are open and dynamic to be stable and self-coherent over time’.

The challenge at scale is to somehow gradually incorporate the right kinds of loops from the best and most complementary features of each of the cultural codes, such that the economy undergoes a beneficial phase transition; in that case capitalism becomes one mechanism among many in a much richer economic paradigm or fabric; a truly mixed economy.

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