SECRET INVASION vs PEACEMAKER - Why One Worked and One Didn't

Edited by Jeffery Binet, Randolf Nombrado, Brianna McLarty, Lee Mazzio and Ethan Lavinsky

#SecretInvasion #Peacemaker #SceneFights!

[imhonor]

Peacemaker is up there as one of the greatest superhero tv shows.

[RunnerX]

Scope was also an issue. Peacemaker dealt with a world level threat in a small way that didn’t rock the boat for other movies. Secret Invasion was also a world level threat that literally changed how the world acted, then was completely forgotten about in the very next Marvel movie, one that starred Fury. Such a failure.

[damorty]

This just made me wanna watch Peacemaker for the 6th+ time. God I loved this show. I can't wait for Season 2.

[shelbydont]

Peacemaker's prison fight scene alone was better than anything Secret Invasion even thought to do.

[leoniemills]

You can really tell the MCU had no showrunners because Agents of Shield literally did an amazing job with undercover Hydra agents and LMDs. They have too much money to be this stingy on creative direction on their TV shows.

[DaveBloomDrumsOnline]

Because James Gunn knows how to balance, seriousness and comedy while still telling a solid consistent story with surprises, weird what the fuck moments, and even after a great finale, he gives us one final hilarious sendoff. I am so excited for the DC reboot.

[mygetawayart]

In a way i can see how James might tackle Superman, considering his predilection for the "band of misfits" theme. He described Superman: Legacy as a world where hope has been replaced by cynicism, where Kal-El therefore stands out for being hopeful and optimistic. In that lens i can see how James would write a "misfit" Superman.

[pongunz]

Peacemaker is so damn perfect as a tv show it perfectly introduced every character even the villain's, humanized them and still delivered emotional and comedic takes perfectly that shit really is a perfect show

[hecticmediapro]

One had awesome characters performed by an awesome cast, humour and a very well written story. The other was secret invasion

[clydehall]

This. All of this! I took some heat when I told friends they should be watching 'Preacemaker'. The character as seen in 'The Suicide Squad' hadn't charmed them. Quite the opposite. And they'd heard about the character's initial takes that echoed his upbringing among a white supremist father and his movement. Many of these same fans later felt very much betrayed by 'Secret Invasion', an MCU project they were excited about because of its comic book basis and Samuel Jackson's iconic Nick Fury portrayals. I'd never thought of the similarity in storylines between 'Peacemaker' & 'Secret Invasion', nor the extreme differences in execution. But your examination and Gunn's handling of the show is exactly why the new DCU has me optimistic.

[charlesberg]

One had fun characters with great arcs, overcoming conflict and doing cool stuff. The other had sam jackson slowly shuffle about.

[mx]

I had high hopes for Secret Invasion. Then Maria got fridged in the first episode, and I knew it was a sign of bad things to come.

[gerrigarrick]

Loved Peacemaker. As for Secret Invasion, as I think I commented before it seems to me that the writers started the show leaning into the friendship theme, which I found compelling. it gave a new depth to Fury to see his interactions with Talos, but killing Talos to me killed the whole show. They abandoned the theme, and not only that, ignored' for the most part, Talos' death, esp. Its effect on Fury, which stunted Fury's arc on the show. Why didn't we see him mourn? Why didn't he at least tell the Prez that a skrull saved his life? It was like they suddenly made the varra/Fury Bstory the Astory to salvage losing Talos.

[michaelalanstlouis]

And you didn't even mention Vigilante! Gunn is so good at finding lesser known characters and bringing them to life.

[peterlenham]

Robert Patrick was in Peacemaker, and Christopher McDonald was in Secret Invasion. Both actors starred in The Faculty, a film ALSO about an alien invasion. I guess the multiverse does exist then.

[mystikmagik]

Peacemaker is a masterclass on how to make a television show. Fans were the only ones tuning in week one but through the superb storytelling and unparalleled comedy, Gunn had the entire nation tuning in by week two and growing each and every week to the finale. Word of mouth is still king and EVERYONE was talking about it constantly, my coworkers, my boss, my aunt, and my neighbor, I could talk to anyone about what was going on and theorize what we thought was going to happen. SOOO many people who don't watch comic book movies tuned into Peacemaker because it was no doubt one of the best shows that year, in my opinion, one of the best superhero TV shows ever while also having the potential to make you cry laughing. Marvel had a story with x1000 the potential and made a piece of actual trash that even the most dedicated fans won't go back to review. I hate to see Marvel burn but they will continue to be outclassed now that Gunn is at DC. Marvel/Star Wars/Disney absolutely has to put the agenda to rest or the fans will cheer their slow death. *Cue DaFoe Goblin "but the one thing they love more than a hero is to see him fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you have done for them, they will hate you."*

[ryanwaslawski]

Secret invasion looked like its budget was slashed and they found the cheapest writers and directors

[BaDazai]

I love peacemaker, absolutely had a ride watching it, it was so funny!! 😂😂😂😂

[markcruz]

the great thing about Peacemaker was that they maintained a mystery about who the aliens were. We as the audience were finding out about who were aliens just as the characters were. The stakes were high and there was a sense of urgency.

Whereas Secret Invasion they kept revealing straight away who the Skrulls were even before the characters found it. At times it was easy for the characters to know anyway because they had a specific actor playing each Skrull character. So the show was lacking "secrecy" and mystery. Also i dont think the Skrulls needed heroes DNA to morph into their appearance and they already seem to possess super strength. Also theres not really a vast array of powers currently in the MCU to make a Super Skrull that interesting. Most of our characters are just super strength based and the rest are powerless with the exception of a few

[oh.my.gawd.beckyOG]

You nailed it! I was stoked for every episode of Peacemaker & was genuinely intrigued - I didn’t even make it past the second episode of secret invasion and just forgot about it.