The Creation of Hip Hop, Fat Joe, FBA's, and Puerto Ricans

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A debate on the origins of Hip-Hop and why Black Americans were the creators.

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[onst]

I’m 50 and can remember a time when other races didn’t want nothing to do with what we did, they didn’t want to be look at as being black.

[cazz]

Thank you for this! I was a rare FBA 10 year old who often hung out with Puerto Ricans in 1970. I spoke Spanish. Was in a Puerto Rican gang(The Brooklyn Bachelors. It astounds me that we even have to debate that PuertoRicans, who were were relatively new to America (or Jamaicans who were unseen) had ZERO part in hiphop creation. Zero

[henryjohnson]

Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans etc came over here and assimilated into our culture…from music, slang, fashion etc….them parties kool herc was having had no Caribbean sound….they was playing James brown at them parties

[James-luhb]

How did Kool Herc bring Soundsystems from Jamaica to America when he was a 12 year old child? Kool Herc himself admitted that he couldn't even get into those Dancehall parties in Jamaica and that he wasn't a DJ.

[llcoolzay]

Hip hop is black American culture if you go to these other countries and learn Latino or Jamaican culture you will see hip hop is not present period

[brrxpbu]

Thank you for telling the truth black Americans created hip hop point blank period

[oncode]

It's simple, creating and participating is two totally different things.

[marcus.g.]

Facts 💯... Foundational Black Americans (FBA) created hip-hop... We created it. 🔥👍🏽

[djpioneer]

It is a Davey D interview on line where Kool Herc tells where his influences came from. In fact herc was asked by a jamaican youth that was in the room, was he influenced by jamaican sound systems? He clearly said, "no, my influences are from the US side" He goes on the mention, grandmaster flowers, the smith brothers, dj plumber.

[hip-hophistorybuff]

Shout out to all the folks who left constructive and positive comments and feedback. Y’all are some real ones. I don’t claim to be an expert at age 41, but I love hiphop and have learned a thing or two. That being said, I made it a point to credit Black Americans as the creators of hiphop several times in this video. I also said that Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans made contributions over the years. Not once did I say that Jamaicans or Puerto Ricans created it, or that it was 50/50. However, I did give both groups some of their flowers in this video as it’s only right. Still, At the end of the day, I was very clear that hiphop was created by Black Americans. Figured this needed to be said since some folks might not understand nuance, but really they just also want to argue.😂 PEACE!!

[markheyliger]

Appreciate you tapping in on this topic

[quinncole]

Blk Americans created hip hop, rap, jazz, country, pop, gospel, rock, r&b etc.... blues= in which is wear reggae come from 😅 but we don't try to claim it as our own. Hip hop was already in America even tho hip hop first showed itself in the 40s in America, James Brown should get most of the credit he was the one who really pushed that type of sound and made it a sign of blk empowerment. Funk music is the base of what hip-hop derived from . The beats, the rhyming over a up tempo Kool beat, the style the jewelry, the flashiness, the dancing, speaking and rhyming about social issues. James Brown literally the g.o.a.t of 3 different genres almost, soul music, funk music, hip hop= James Brown was a mc before anyone made that term popular, he was the 1 rockin the crowd, selling out shows, being played at block party's and cookouts!! All Kool herc did was come to america assimilated himself to the culture that was already here and rode the bandwagon of something that was already the wave/the movement. They'res nothing based in Jamaican culture that show itself in the start of hip hop. But blk American based music like funk music, blues and soul shows itself in hip hop from the start!! And Kool herc got his name and identity in America, while playing basketball an American sport, while playing with blk Americans!! Literally America made Kool herc, he was literally playing American music, James Brown music. Not Jamaican music

[TenderViddlez]

See how simple that was? No getting butt hurt, no tip-toeing around the point, no dishonest and deceptive games, no misrepresenting or twisting what claims FBA are making about Hip Hop. Just straight truth and facts. He gave credit where credit is due, FBA created Hip Hop. He acknowledged that there were Puerto Rican and Jamaican practitioners who soon became legends, he acknowledged movies that would heavily depict Puerto Ricans and clarified that those movies came later well after the culture was created. He just proved how biased and bad-faithed these others who make this so difficult really are.

[jameswhite]

HERC DIDN'T BRING ANYTHING FROM JAMAICA. HE CAME TO THE STATES AT 12YRS OLD BRO!!! HE HAD EQUIPMENT!!! HE LEARNED BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE AND THEN BECAME A DJ!!!

[antoniolindsey]

Cool herc came to America when he was 12 years old

[wc]

You one of the best hiphop content creators out here! 🤞🏾

[vincentwilliams]

I appreciate you talking about this controversial topic and clearing this up. One Love!!

[lottogodh]

Busta Rhymes put his foot in his mouth that's the reason why we having a stupid🤣🤣 topic F.B.A 🙏🏾❤

[chopitupradio]

You really gotta take in consideration the culture of hip-hop. Naming off Jamaican rappers doesn’t mean anything because they were all participating in Black American culture. This is why most people never knew these people were Jamaican because they didn’t sound like Jamaican, they didn’t dress like Jamaicans, they used black American vernacular, they rapped in black American vernacular English, they weren’t rapping in patwa, they weren’t using reggae tracks. Everything they did was from black American culture. They all assimilated and acculturated into FBA culture. Nothing in hip-hop sounds anything like Jamaican music or Puerto Rican music.

[LargeDude]

IMO, the creator/biggest influencer of hip hop was James Brown. Although it was cultivated in the streets of NYC, in the early 70s James Brown was king in the hood. James Brown had the most sampled music early on and it is no surprise because Brown was known for taking it to the bridge and having the drum beats and the soul/funk. This music contributed heavily to break dancing as the first major BB song was Give It Up Or Turn It Loose by James Brown. Couple that with how Brown danced and we all wanted to dance like him to his music. Moreover, the message that Brown had resonated with us. "Say It Loud" and other anthems that we had and Brown often cleverly rhymed in his songs and we heard this. Not saying Brown was the first to do this, but his music was paramount in the early and mid 70s when hip hop was created. This was an era of black pride and Brown's music embodied that. I was watching a vid recently where they talked about how the Black Spades use to use some of Brown's saying with their own twist. DJs then took that energy and started extending other songs that had breaks like I Can't Stop, Phenomenon Theme, Scorpio, etc. Brown had songs that didn't even need to be extended or cut up because the entire song was funky.