OUTSIDE CONSUMER UNITS...A CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC!! HERE'S MY VIEW.

Today I installed the BRAND NEW FuseBox External EV consumer unit which has turned out to be a great little unit!
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[jonathangriffiths]

I've been an electrician for 40 years since leaving school. JIB graded technician, it was 15th IEE regs when i was at college. How sad am i, i run my own business, work all day and then get fed up with paperwork in the evening and end up watching other electricians on Youtube. Most are what i call new wave electricians, Part P and domestic installers WTF, you're an electrician or not. I like this chap and good old Thomas Nagy when he was around, you always learn from someone, most keyboard warriors are knobheads who haven't got a clue. forget the idiots who slate anything, you a do a good job mate

[urho]

Found out about your YT channel last week and have to say you make one of the best content on sparkie channels here. Cheers from Finland, also sparkie.

[wiganPrayersman]

Nice from fuse box, with a IP67 consumer unit. When fitted EV chargers if like what you are doing with no access to the consumer unit in the house, we had to take the internals out a indoor consumer unit and put them in a IP67 enclose with a locking door. We used to use 16mm tails as it was easy to get them inside. As long as you silicone around the screw holes on the IP67 consumer you should be OK, top and sides is a good idea.

[kittsdiy]

05:14 is that class5 wire in that Uv altra cable ? Fine strands ? Can't see clear in video .. Ferrules are not required on class2 ( solid core stranded ) wires . Flexible tails are also Class2 i think ( no need for ferrules ) .

[davideyres]

Love the fact your attitude it willing to learn and share. That why I subbed after watching your 1st video.

The reason for the cat 5 and power is if you run it in parallel you risk getting emf interference because it runs across a bigger run. Not so much of a problem at the end of the cable especially as you showed the gap between the power and the data connections.

It’s a spec so dosnt mean it isn’t going to work it means that a given install following the spec will 100% work. If it’s outside the spec you may get a light come on but you could see 99% packet loss which would give you unacceptable pocket loss and your gigabit drops down to kilobits of throughput. Depending on the data being transferred that could thoroughly bugger up the app in question.

CT is not data so different issue.

It’s no different from wiring up a 13 amp socket with 1mm. It will work until you plug something that draws too much current and it catches fire.

Even if it works now and you get data through there’s no guarantee they won’t change the application or firmware and then it stops working and no one knows why.

The only way to be sure is to run a cable certifier on it and certify it to the spec. If your doing an office install this is what you do and send off the checks to the cable manufacturer and they will certify and guarantee it for 20 years or so. However those thing make your mft look cheap so not worth it unless you are doing a ton of these installs and you want the certificates.

It would be interesting to see what this does when a full charge is going on.

Keep the videos conning fella.

[shaunkaye]

Great vid, I did a similar installation using a metal outdoor fusebox, mine like yours was a pme system, I understand that the charger unit as PEN fault protection built in, but my worry was that if a pen fault did occur the casing of the fusebox would become live, I went back and put a plastic box around the fuse box as an extra precaution.
Be great to know your thoughts on this.

[KevinSmith-phjv]

Nice work! Very good point about outdoor consumer units not being a new thing

[cheatingpunk]

Great vid! I’m an apprentice electrician working in solar and installed a couple of zappi’s now and picked up some useful tips so thank you!

[jess_the_hungry_cat]

Excellent video as always. Very informative. Have a great week. 😊

[Mattyysimpsonphotography]

The power and data cable issues come more into effect when tight together say in flexi/conduit, if you need to run them together then use Shielded (FTP) like the do in the EV ultra cable and you're good to go

[cestemshow]

State of that swa in the meter cabinet 😢. The main concern is an open pen fault. The car wouldn't charge and the consumer is directed to the consumer unit. The metal one outside next to the ground 😮This could be solved if you can get open pen protection in the meter box perhaps. I was trained by dno so perhaps more confident with the procedures and their obligations and would have no concerns contacting them to help re-arrange that meter box to allow this.

[carlmarquardt]

Great clip.
I have watched a frew others same installation.
You have no choice re the CT cable as its inside the EV cable which originates at the cu anyway therefore it has to be joined in the cu?

[steveday]

Great little video, we are the same as you and only install outside DB's when there is no other choice.

[mikeselectricstuff]

Is there a drain hole in the box ? This (or a breather vent) is important as air pressure changes can gradually pump moisture in past seals. I think a significant objection to outdoor CUs is you're relying on the seal around the flap, which isn't held down by screws on all sides and may distort over time, especially if exposed to sunlight. A standard CU in a suitably rated outdoor enclosure may be better long-term, as the seal is held by the lid screws.

[bradleyarcher]

Great job as always, only thing I’d be picky on is external consumer units for EV jobs should be 0.9m high in order to maintain AG3\IK10 compliances. I always mount mine the same high as the meter box to square them off.

It’s the same with with chargers outside, anything with a digital display should be between 1.2m and 1.4m from the floor. I often see consumer units on the floor or under the meter box and they look like dog meat.

[stephenquinn]

Is 25mm tails not a bit excessive for 32amp? I use 16mm. In Northern it's the norm to supply the house with 16mm tails. I have even seen houses in southern Ireland with 10mm t&e that's seems wrong to me but they have their own rules.
Haven't seen any signs of over heating on the 16mm tails in 20 years.

[chas]

You could add a supplemental earth rod on the outside metal CU to reduce touch voltage but I’d make sure it’s connected to a common met block with the existing TNCS earthing

[lanceeaton]

What are rhe chances of the Kw rating of chargers rising similar to how showers evolved over the years? Thinking of running 10mm cable ready for a couple of years time

[zm]

Is the CT coil for dynamic load management?

[phillipneale]

Has the external consumer unit got a lockable facility to prevent unauthorised tampering ?