Top 10 Games that Should Have Been an Email

Tom Vasel, Zee Garcia, and Mike DiLisio take a look at their top 10 games that perhaps run longer than they should, by a little or maybe by a lot. Zee may or may not sing the collected works of Luciano Pavarotti.

Intro - 00:00

Mike 10 - 05:04
Zee 10 - 06:55
Tom 10 - 09:30

Mike 9 - 11:26
Zee 9 - 13:42
Tom 9 - 15:37

Mike 8 - 18:25
Zee 8 - 21:36
Tom 8 - 23:42

Mike 7 - 27:00
Zee 7 - 29:30
Tom 7 - 33:03

Mike 6 - 35:26
Zee 6 - 37:48
Tom 6 - 41:02

Mike 5 - 43:24
Zee 5 - 45:36
Tom 5 - 48:07

Mike 4 - 51:07
Zee 4 - 53:38
Tom 4 - 56:25

Mike 3 - 59:20
Zee 3 - 1:02:24
Tom 3 - 1:04:56

Mike 2 - 1:08:20
Zee 2 - 1:10:39
Tom 2 - 1:12:42

Mike 1 - 1:15:30
Zee 1 - 1:18:44
Tom1 - 1:21:55

People's Choice 1:25:10
Outro - 1:29:16

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[winstonhammonds]

Mike is absolutely right about there always being one teacher who feels the need to respond to everything, constantly sharing when everyone just wants to leave.

[unrealed]

You guys should do a "Top 10 Games You Need To Be In The Mood For" like what Zee mentions at 20:05. Their are several games like that that CAN be great but are really setting/mood dependent

[gbank]

Has there ever been a top ten on the opposite of this: Games that end too soon? Or games that benefit from expanded player counts? These are my favorite things on all of the internet 🤣

[griffglowen]

Discrete is the correct word for playing a game in a single separate session - it’s like the opposite of continuous. Discreet (pronounced the same) means hidden

[jacobramirez]

I LOVE long games! This video was great. It had the opposite effect on me - I will definitely look into these games.

[Alluvian]

We played a 6 hour game of RoboRally once, we had four boards 2x2 and a floating fifth board above it with teleports up there and where the pits would drop you to the lower boards. It was also 8 player. Everyone was drunk and rowdy and it was honestly a blast, but one of those things you do once, enjoy it, and move on. This was also very early in the boardgame hobby for all involved, so we were much more forgiving of quirkyness. It was also the first time all these people met in person after having known each other in an mmo for a few years, so it had a lot of things that made it special.

[lolaldanee]

Lol, I had no idea what this list was all about before watching the Introduction. Thanks for the explanation haha

[danielbuday]

Tom looks like an Amish blackjack dealer.

[coasterfreakrob]

A little surprised Villainous isn't mentioned anywhere. My wife and I enjoy the game, but only with two or maybe three players. One time we played it with four, and on top of the way it naturally gets longer with more players, one of the other players had extreme AP, and the game took us over 3.5 hours to finish, which is way too long for that game. I actually ended up not playing optimally and not actively thwarting anybody else's progress with the Fate cards just so that the game would end.

[jeremiahhammer]

As a solo player, game length is a complete non issue with me. In fact, I prefer longer games that I’m able to leave out on the table and play through a scenario or two. I also prefer narrative/legacy style games, so it’s interesting to see you guys’ takes on these games. Cheers, love you Dice Tower! ❤️🙏🏼❤️

[koalabrownie]

I think another thing about progression in video games is that games often have overlapping rewards. Yes you're waiting to level up, but in the mean time, you find some new gear- or a new crafting recipe. Some reward. That's one thing in civilization, the one more turn phenomenon is often attributed to the fact that the player is constantly getting rewarded as something gets built, or a tile is improved, or research is found, etcetera.

[TheNathanlockhart]

To Zee's comment that Risk just needs a different end game - there is a version that includes "missions". For example, conquer Europe and South America and you win. Each player gets their own secret objective. It's much faster and much better.

[jasonnewell]

Oh, that opening speech about teacher meetings... that was too real. I got painful flashbacks. My staff meeting were always after I had a full day teaching, on for every period and often a playground duty, so I was exhausted. Our full staff meetings were in the school library and they would have these high-backed, plush chairs at the back of the meeting space. I always tried to get there early and grab one of these chairs, because it made things less obvious for when I inevitably fell asleep. Not if, when.
But the reference to "that one teacher who has an opinion on everything"... shudder.

[eesef]

This list should have been an email. Just kidding!! Love the Dice Tower and will watch this video many times like I do with most of their content. 😁

[warblefly]

My top game not mentioned was Mice & Mystics. If you play as an adult, the mechanisms aren’t quite there to make it fun enough for the time. However, playing with kids, the game lasts too long for the average kid’s attention span. The first scenario is like 1.5-2 hrs long after reading like a 10 minute story. I love the game, and think it could be great for kids if it was shortened.

[lioneart]

A list of games that are long but would lose something if shortened would be nice too. Games like Twilight Imperium, that give an experience that can't be shortened.

Another interesting list, based on Zee's 8 in this list, is of "the cover lied to me".

[bibleboardgames]

I think Diplomacy turned me off to playing games with others for many years. Pandemic brought me back. Thanks for the video guys!

[lihninor]

"I hate long meetings that could have been an email"
Takes 90 minutes to list 10 games.

[Freethedice]

I love the videos with Mike, Zee and Tom. I hope you guys are still doing them!

[daniellebackus]

I adore Bohnanza, and I don’t really feel like it goes that long. The first time through the deck is a little long, but the second and third go crazy fast.