My idea for a nonlinear conlang

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This is my very basic, in-progress idea for a nonlinear written conlang. Like, it isn't even named yet, and half the grammar is still being forged as we speak. I thought this video would be short, but it's over 25 minutes oops lol.

==THE LINK ZONE==

Chapters:
0:00 Explaining the idea
8:59 Symbol list!
20:28 Examples
24:18 Outro thingy

#conlang #conlanging
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I love seeing videos like this one where the person talking about their craft is so deeply passionate about it and the only reason the video exists is to show that passion. It reminds me why I love humans.

LitteralyaTree
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I imagine what could make such a language so cool is that reading it would involve first taking a global look at the entire sentence then zooming in to each of the individual words with all of their markers. It’s really cool cuz that kind of starting global and moving in feels very unique in languages. I imagine it’d be an interesting way to draw out the emotions of a text. Like, laying out the tone of a sentence so the reader has that information from the outset, which is then informed by what they go on to read and all the markers with it

nathanieldevris
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As a linguist, this concept is fascinating and has inspired me a lot!

anotparticularlynotableguy
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Great insights! Just a suggestion: a character set usually has a theme-ish specific stylistic appearance, where one can at a glance identify a multiple characters to be in the same language, even if they don't understand it at all.
e.g. korean, simplified/trad. chinese, japanese (hiragana, katakana and kanji/chinese-ish characters)

evildinobot
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just saw this recommended and this looks cool asf (btw the audio is great so dont worry !!)

chosoistryinghisbest
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toki!

I think, for me, I would have it such that descriptors connect to the noun their describing. I'd also see verbs, as well as prepositions, as special kinds of descriptor:

In many languages, including the local dialect where I'm from, verbs and adjectives behave very similarly grammatically. I like to think of them as states, with there being a sense of tense and aspect clarifying the way they're modifying the noun. For example, we say, "she eat" (past state) and "she eating" (present state), the same way we say, "she happy" (present state).

There's also a neat feature in Mandarin Chinese, where prepositions can behave similar to verbs, or are technically verbs. For example, you'd say "I mount plane go England", rather than having a separate grammatical category to show your relation to the plane, as well as "I in school read book", where "in" (在) is the used as the verbal phrase "to be in".

With this it becomes super easy to just connect noun to predicate to noun non-linearly without worrying about a bunch of parts of speech. You can also have some way of showing which noun is the agent or patient of the sentence, and also have some way to mark to show the subject (basically where to start reading from). Perhaps a small bubble between agent and predicate containers, and then little dashes around subject containers maybe.

(Oyit9GF)

stephenwaldron
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Wow, and I thought my "nonlinear" language was wibbly wobbly... This is awesome!

SystemofEleven
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this is awesome! you’ve inspired me to try my hand at one of these

the_wumbologist
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Got this in my recommended randomly, cool stuff!
Just 300 views right niw

Milark
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the symbol for nothing in a container is cool because you could imagine that as being where the symbol for zero comes from

zagle
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Очень крутое видео и то, как ты проработал письменность и грамматику меня очень поражает!! Я очень тащусь от таких вещей! Продолжай и снимай видео далее!

iden_naturalist
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Cool language! I love seeing your passion shine through in this video! I'm a little surprised no one else has mentioned this yet, but your language reminds me of the written language "Heptapod B", originally mentioned in Ted Chiang's short story "Story of Your Life" and later in the movie adaptation "Arrival". Heptapod B is similarly non-linear and one must know the layout of the entire sentence before starting to write it. Your written language also slightly reminds me of some old, obscure writing system for numbers that I can't remember the name of for the life of me. Anyway, cool stuff!

arrunzo
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this is very similar to the ideas I've been using to create and improve a system for creating chaos magic sigils!
tbh the whole thing evolved past being constrained by the tenets of chaos magic and is blossoming into a whole highly syncretic+agnostic belief system, but it still started as an attempt to understand sigilization in magic rituals.
this might inspire me to make a video about it too, so thanks^^
(also as a writer and personal language variation enjoyer love how you omit 'e' after 'l' in words like squiggl and angls!!)

jane_gorelove
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This is so cool! Hope to see more from you!

vioname
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Never delved into conlangs and all I know is some random tidbits from recommend videos, so maybe terrible question. Is not every sentence in english language somewhat of a container? Like you start with word with capital letter and end it with . or ? or !.

AsiJirka
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This is a very cool idea, it could be a spoken language as well if each container type was a suffix or something. Then it would likely play out similar to a language with free word order

monsterdetective
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Amazing video! It reminds me of non-configurationality so it could be worth taking a look into. Also what if a container is in the container of a noun or verb? Also what if a symbol is placed in the sentence container without any container on it of a verb or noun? I think that could create far more artistic things, for example what if a symbol that is not in a container is a verb, and the emit one looks like it could hold encompass another symbol, in that case the verb would be the container of the object.

Hwelhosold
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what are the languages you know? I feel like you could find this non-linear sentence structure in many agglutinative languages (why is there a red squiggly line under "agglutinative"? It is the correct spelling). For example, even though it may not sound as natural or prescriptively not correct grammatically all the time, you could say both "Kapıyı kapatır mısın?" and "Kapatır mısın kapıyı?" in Turkish and it would have the exact same meaning (it means "Could you close the door?" btw). Since the words carry their "describers" along with them as their suffixes, you can practically move them around. The 2 words in the example sentence are divided to their individual parts as kapı-yı and kapat-ır-mı-sın, and these individual suffixes could potentially be thought of as individual markers which allow the final word to be placed anywhere in the sentence while still keeping their intended meaning, am I right?

Good video btw, subscribed. Your minecraft videos look good I will check them out

abdullahmertozdemir
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That's really dope. keep on doing this fucked up stuff man!

verifizierterjurist
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Hi, very nice idea! I think in the case of multiple nouns in the sentence, the subject can just be the bigger one (this way you dont have to introduce new markers). Also, have you considered containers overlapping, kinda like a Venn diagram? This way you could have multiple verbs be used to one noun (which could be equivalent to an "and" symbol)

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