Moral Philosophy - R.M. Hare & Bryan Magee (1977)

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In this program, R.M. Hare discusses moral philosophy and utilitarianism with Bryan Magee. This is from a 1977 series with Bryan Magee on Modern Philosophy called Men of Ideas.

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Bryan Magee was class! Believe it or not this used to be on the BBC....you’d never have a discussion like this on a PBS nowadays.... cant give the plebs too much thinky stuff now can we?....you’d come back from the pub back in the day late at night and something like this would be 👏🏻

iandonnelly
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(written in the style of Mr. Magee)
It is a shame that this variety of content has no chance of ever entering the public sphere like it might have years ago. We are saturated with information about the present and we have forgotten there has been some fellows with quite a lot to say on the subject of the present. I'm hopeful for a resurgence in philosophy consciousness due to its raw ability to put current events into scope. I consider myself lucky to be aware of the subject's existence and practicality.


As a young man lacking intellectual support, as sad as it may be, I look towards these kinds of videos to center myself in the chaos of adult evolution. I have felt that thick barrier against authentic communication and have always wondered if it was because of me or the world. Having access to any lucid discourse, even on the internet, brings me a sense of deep reassurance and real confidence that my way of interpreting the world is valid. Which brings me to my guest...

Wbjpen
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Thank you for uploading this rare episode!!

GeorgiosMichalopoulos
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Wow a Bryan Magee program I've never watched before. Thanks for the upload !

d.mavridopoulos
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This is a fabulous series. I feel positive and refreshed every time I watch an episode.

magemov
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Had no idea there was one with Hare. I thought I saw everything Magee had done.

PrimitiveBaroque
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Finally! Hare is my favorite and I've always wanted to see this. I've only ever read transcripts of the interview.

Huesos
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Hot. Now if you can do the one with Charles Taylor we'll finally have the complete set of the original series "Men of Ideas" in English. Took years for youtube to get here. Thanks!

anthonyburgess
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So far as I know, R M Hare was one of the men who built the bridge over the River Kwai.

GhostofFHBradley
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Dear PO, do you know why this interview, which is one of many Magee done, is specially rare and not the other ones? Are there episodes similar in rarity?

orpheus
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Love the series. Great thinkers, Bryan Magee great interviewer. Thanks for the uploads.

G.M Hare is perhaps the most unremarkable of philosophers I've seen on this series. He advocates for teaching his children to not perform sexual acts outside of wedlock based on some 'intuition' he has. and then goes ahead and says all morals should be universal? as if in any case we should never perform sexual acts out of wedlock. This intuition from a christian dogma.. i find it simultaneously hilarious, and disgraceful.

TheFelimon
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11:51 the problem of specialization that started with philosophy and haunts all disciplines. So much concern for the sub theory that specialist is unaware of the fruitfulness of the main theory any more. What is worse is that many don’t care since their pay is based on the continuation of the sub theory however stagnant or barren the main theory is.

tethyn
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Greatest good of the greatest number is the most logical, practical and common sense moral position. Ultimately every other stance is theoretical, contained in utilitarianism or just plain nacelles gazing..

firstal
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Excavated in 'Ancient Iran' = Persia?

derekward
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14 minutes in and still hardly a word about moral philosophy

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It is strange that Hare thinks Rawls Theory of Justice is reducible to utilitarianism, when Rawls severely criticizes utilitarianism and adopts a contract theory of justice in the manner of Kant, Rousseau, and Locke. It is not so much intuition that Rawls uses and depends on as much as rational moral principles of freedom, equality, and a form of distributive justice. He distinguishes between morals learned as a child from one’s parents and teachers (as authorities) from morals learned from interacting with one’s peers (in growing up) and basing one’s morals on principles (as one might put together a moral code for oneself).

garyleimback
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Dude kinda looks like Conan O'Brien in a bald cap.

CptCrash
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When I saw the thumbnail I thought what the hell happened to Bryan Magee then I clicked on it and realised it was other guy

DMAOZO
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I don't think utilitarianism manged to turn moral landscape of society through power of its ideas. The idea itself is basic and common sense. And really the only workable position, taken as a whole..

What led to adoption of Utilitarianism, from an earlier state when it was not- is the widening moral sphere of human society where we started to think of men as equals in a basic sense. That happend independent due to advancement in education and means of communication

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In determining a fair wage, it might be useful to determine the average wage for different segments of society (demographically determined), determine the cost of living for those different segments of society and see if certain segments of society are earning less than they are spending or need to spend to raise a family (they are in poverty). For those who are in poverty their income or resources must be added to by government assistance if you want a fair society. Is this so philosophically difficult to figure out? A fair wage would raise one's earnings above the poverty level.

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