First Look At Sway WM: Welcome Home 'i3'

Back when I first started using Arch Linux I was usng i3 and now I'm finally trying out Sway which is intended to be a drop in replacement for i3 or i3 gaps over on the Wayland side.

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[erikreider]

What's awesome with the compositor being integrated is handling inputs and monitors. You don't have to mess with xinput, xrandr and feh to do basic tasks like setting the sensitivity

[MiguelRodriguez-ngwc]

I've been using sway for about 4 months now, and with some workarounds, particularly with some applications and video sharing, it has been great.

[KarlHansson]

I’ve been using sway since last October on AMD processor and graphics and it’s been working absolutely fine. I’m running Gentoo.

[knurd]

been running with i3 for years now. Just adapted my convoluted config in very little time to sway. If you can do without the bling and like no clutter and no distractions, i3/sway might be for you. It is also very customizable. I have mine very vim-ish, for example. It can be very user friendly, depending on the user.

[Demonspeeding]

I've been on Sway for the 1st time, it is my 1st WM ever aside from Gnome or KDE and it's been absolutely flawless for me, minus the being new and needing to configure things like the volume keys on my keyboard to work properly.

[jfftck]

There should be a standard for window manager decorators so users can select their own style using whatever toolkit to design the UI part.

[CobaltSpace]

About the crashing on AMD: It may be a sign of some kind of hardware instability. I have had this issue on and off, especially when pushing the GPU. I have tended to think it was the kernel that was the issue. I found a kernel version that seemed to work better, and I just held updates on it for a while. But the occasional crashes still irritated me. Eventually, I turned down Precision Boost Overdrive, crashes become rarer. I turned off my power supply's hybrid fan mode so that the fan never turns completely off and moved where my pcie power cables were plugged into the power supply. The previous lts kernel minor update was a bit crash happy with mining, but unigine ran for hours fine.

On an unrelated note: Japanese input in native wayland applications with fcitx5 can be hit or miss. GTK & QT applications are basically always fine, but other applications (such as alacritty) don't show anything until you confirm a suggestion (which you can't see). Some will let you cycle through the suggestions in the text entry area (such as foot), but still won't show the pop up.

[wherath]

2:20 cough cough check out swayfire it's a combo of sway and wayfire.

Also, if you actually look at the reasoning for why the server and compositor in Wayland is combined, separating them kinda removes one of the reasons for why Wayland was created.
Because most of the functions of the X server no longer needs to be done in the X server, but are instead done in separate libraries or in the kernel the server and compositor where combined.
The server really only needs to handle device events and queuing up frames sent by the compositor. So why add the extra context switch and not just combine the server and compositor if the server only does 2 relatively simple things anyway?

[gavinvales]

Combining a compositor and window manager makes sense, but seeing as sway is based on wlroots, the compositing should be implemented in wlroots I think, leaving sway to focus on window managing

[PhilipProchazka]

This video would use an update, because wayland is really solid these days

[naniot]

I used sway for about 2 years by now and I really like. My Ryzen 5 1600 & RX580 works perfectly fine and I had similar amounts of crashing like with other systems (a few each year).

I had some issues with screensharing as I tried to fix things and misconfigured something else. But it seems like I figured it out since I hadn't any issues for a while now.

After using sways tools to configure displays and things like my wacom tablet, I just can't go back to X.orgs way of handling peripherals. I had so many issues trying to change the refresh rate of my monitor which for sway was exactly this one line you mentioned.

At the end of the day it comes down to what you do. If you just want a working system with manual tiling and don't care about blur or rounded corners, then sway is the better i3 imo.

I personally won't ever go back to xorg, I used it, it works, but sway already works better for me.

PS: But I'm a person who also generally likes Gnome (it has many flaws though) after giving a long try with very few extensions.

PPS: I'd love to see a deep dive into wayfire, as it aims to bring back loads of visual customizations.

[jasondaigo]

I could not turn off outputs sometimes. Was totally random. When i work from home and only wanted to use 1 display cause the two others where needed on my company pc.

[laurenskoning]

I do A LOT of conference calls with Whereby, Teams, Zoom, sometimes some random smaller ones. Even Skype through Citrix(hell) es demanded... Also quite some presenting and screensharing. I guess switching to Wayland/Sway from i3gaps isn't the way to go yet?

[gardenapple]

Sway is my first and so far only tiling WM, I probably would not have dared to ditch the mouse if not for me wanting to check out Wayland.

[numairdubas]

There are also tilling floating windows (exactly what is sounds like)

[micaiahflores]

I have been using sway on my pine phone pro for a while and I really really like it. However convergence is a bit odd And I have also been using sway on my Pine Book pro until it started acting really weird Now I’m back on KDE. I miss sway

[kodesoul]

Thanks for the video. Your wayland video inspired me to start digging and I came across river. It's a mix between the best parts of dwm and bspwm. It has some quirks but I've been daily driving it for a week and I'm not sure I'm going back to Awesome. You should defo check it out.

[imhemish]

Starting linux, i used a lot of DE's for short intervals, used xfce for longest. switched to icewm (floating x11 wm) and also openbox for sometime. used cinnamon and gnome on new laptop. used i3 for 1-2 months then switched to sway, and used it for a lot of months. But now i dont like the workflow how workspaces disappear, i dont like that. Then i switched to gnome wayland, went back to sway, then gnome again, then sway, and now finally gnome again. But now i am looking into dwl - that is dwm for wayland.
now i just use gnome wayland as daily driver, but still i try to experiment with wayland compositors.

[nonetrix]

There is a fork of Sway that has rounded windows and is planning to add blur but this again is another problem I have with Wayland

[MrGCE]

YEAAAH ! FINALLY U DID IT !!! :D
TY ! I WANTED TO KNOW UR OPINION :)