QI - How did the Pilgrim Fathers Communicate with the Natives REACTION

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Jodi and Nick react to QI as they discuss how the first conversation went with the Pilgrims and the Native Americans.

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[KernowWarrior]

A Friar is a type of monk. A friar monk works within the community and relies on donations.A (non-friar) Monk would be in a closed order, in a self-sufficient community.

[seijika]

Thanksgiving can seem awfully disturbing to outsiders what with the knowledge of how the settlers eventually repaid those who saved them with genocide. (Even today, an alarming number of surviving Native Americans get persecuted - often being mistaken for being illegal immigrants, a cruel irony indeed.)

[smudge]

Im from somerset and love hearing peoples impressions of how we sound!🤣🤣

It really is a skill to understand some west country accents!🤣

[jackhagens]

Bill’s reaction to ‘Samoset’ is still one of my favourite reactions to anything on QI history (For reference, Samoset is not a million miles away from how people in the English county of Somerset, pronounce Somerset)

[kevinhemmings]

I was in Plymouth a couple of years ago.And stood on the steps in the harbour where they loaded the Mayflower, but was told by a local that as the harbour was extended the original steps are in the basement of a local pub .😮

[TheOrlandoTrustfull]

Nick laughing at his own corny jokes is so great

[ianmayes]

"Not happy with the land we allocated to you? Sorry sir, but you had no reservation."

[happilyeggs]

I thought Nick was going to break into singing, "Theme For An Imaginary Western". It's a fabulous Jack Bruce song. The best version is probably by Leslie West (guitarist with the band Mountain) who virtually made the song his own. Take a listen. You will be impressed.

[watchreadplayretro]

Yep, the risk of illness alone during long ship voyages back then!
I knew of the computer game 'The Oregon Trail' from the 1980s, but it was only when I started collecting old DOS PC games that I came to own a few copies, one original, a few remakes (On CD with voice acting and cut scenes!) one box even came with some hay (I'm not kidding here) in the wooden box with the game. And then finally I found the book, not original copy but a 1970s leather bound copy that is an incredible read! Anyway, in the video game it's like every month you trek forwards a wagon wheel falls off (no not the chocolate we have here) or bad water causes the party to become sick and 2 pass from it, etc etc. Many it really made me appreciate the explorers, settlers, and voyagers of that era and the huge risks they took!

Probably above is boring for you guys, since you cover all this in school, but for me it was a real eye-opener! This video was great, thanks guys! Oh and Rich Hall does some wonderful travel documentaries being another American welcomed to our country and TV a few decades back.

[donkfail]

Even funnier thing (that I learned from QI) is that part of the Mayflower's cargo going to north America was turkeys. Well, "cargo" may be the wrong term. They were a living food source, but probably intended for keeping in their new settlement too.

[vinsgraphics]

I saw the title and immediately thought “Squanto!” Quite a story. Pure luck, given the Mayflower was off course and just happened to land where it did, and have someone greet them in English.

And I learned this growing up in Australia in the 1970s. I had every US president memorized in order before I started high school, thanks to an American couple (geologists) in our Outback town.

[VXGaming]

He had one hell of a gap year that lasted 15 years.

[ianmayes]

You've just re-elected Trum and you say "life was much more traumatizing back then"???? You sure?

[kelvinmeneely]

What is it about, long hair and a beautiful smile...!

[tvgcmma]

Somerset is county in England with lot of farmers wheee Glastonbury festival and make lot of cider so his name very similar to that so why wknds those jokes - Jonathon creek was really good crime drama starting Alan’s savers and never mind buzzcocks TV panel
Show which bill was regular on original series - new series hosted by Greg Davies

[tomfoolery]

Just a side note, Pocahontas is buried in Gravesend, Kent UK. Also I thing it was the native people of Tasmania that we reclassified as 'Flora and Forna', so as not to recognise them as human. We were pretty awful back then.

[BigStib]

1. The Plymouth Brethren expedition was a Crown-licenced corporate exoedition. All early English/British colonies were. You set up a "factory" to trade with the locals with a beneficial monopoly in certain goods (tobacco, in this case, I think) and with Royal protection from hostiles (local (rare) other Europeans (frequent)). The deal was you pay back the loans, free land etc with your trade/produce.
2. The Jamestown expedition had only a minority of "Pilgrims" (less than 30 adults, I recall) and most of them died early. But boy! Were they extreme!! In religious terms the Brownist Congregationists weren't just Protestant, just Puritan, or even just the Leiden/Dutch style extremists, they were so far out there, other Puritan groups in the new colonies couldn't get on with them. The group had started off mostly in the English West Midlands, some of their leaders coming from very Establishment backgrounds with high-up connections. Despite the general wave of Protestantism then prevailing, the King (who was a thorough-going Scottish Protestant) and reformed Anglican Church weren't radical enough for them. Nor were the other Non-Conformist churches, so they migrated to a more radical Holland. They weren't radical enough either so they came back and got a place in the Jamestown Expedition so they could go and be as radical as they liked. In political terms, their level of extremism would make hardline Taliban look like moderate Muslims. And yet, the King was tolerant/generous enough to sponsor them and give them the Golden Ticket.
3. You keep referring to monks/friars. As others have said, the Anglican Reformation had ended monastic life in England (at least for the next century or three) but these folks couldn't even cope with the idea of Bishops and an ordained ministry in an Established Church, so you think they would have tolerated monks?! Less extreme Protestants had burned a few of the latter in recent decades. And don't mention the Pope whatever you do. 😂
4. Happily, in the event, the Pilgrim Fathers had almost no impact on the religious (or other) development of the early Colonies. Much more is owed to the wave of Puritans who came out in the following decades. Their myth, however, especially when badly remembered, does. And not always for the best.

[PompeyDave-wm]

I suppose the World was shrinking even then, it seems Squanto and Somaset weren't unhappy to see them. Certainly beer and cheese would have been exotic luxuries to them. Their descendants probably regretted the pairs hospitality.

[michaelclarke]

A German leader loved what Britain did in America, used it as a model....

[MultiMoomoo]

It is the entire history of the human race since recorded history began, even prehistory. Every nation has conquered or been conquered at some point or another...thats how empires were built. The english did conquer a lot of the world but england has also been conquered many times...the romans, the normans, the anglo-saxons and even the vikings acquired a huge chunk of england. Life for all humans on earth before the 1800's was pretty shit except for those with wealth and power. And even then, kings, queens, emperors etc, had to watch their backs for people wanting to take the throne from them. Even family members stabbed them in the back if they were next in line for the throne. Native indian tribes used to conquer other tribes in the most brutal ways. This is not predominantly a western thing but a human thing and has always occurred throughout history. Right up to this very day, all the illegal proxy wars going on in the middle east and eastern europe is about gaining control over these territories.