'You got it'. Watch my response to Zak George.

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Watch as I give you my opinion on the AVSAB and their new statement about positive reinforcement training.
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Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. In order for our craft to advance, discussion like this is imperative. Look forward to the comments!

zakgeorge
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Reformed ex Petsmart trainer here... Positive reinforcement is best for most situations. I do also agree that other methods are necessary for some dogs too. Corrections are necessary as well. You can't teach your kids with nothing but praise and candy, sometimes they need a time out or grounded.... I completely agree with you

GirLee
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The loose leash method you show us, with the correction, worked wonders on my dog. He has been pulling for 8 years, I have tried so many methods with positive reinforcement, but it never worked. If it worked, it only lasted a short time and my dog was always a fast walker, stressing by my side wanting to go as fast as he could. With the method at the door ("is he with me, or not?"), giving a tug at the leash when he got to the end of the leash, letting him go if he wanted to and then correcting him if he went too far, using multiple stops on a walk to check if he is "with me", well..my dog no longer pulls, he walkes beside me like he has never done anything else. I am beyond Best wishes from a subscriber in Norway

tragedienne
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Zak's approach helped me with a dog who responded to it. Yours is helping me with a dog who doesn't. I feel both are balanced; no one is abusing dogs. "Aversive" and "cruel" are far from synonymous.

jeniphirtaylor-mcintire
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As a veterinary professional myself, I am confident in my assertion that veterinary professionals don’t know JACK DIDDLY SQUAT about dog behavior/training. They know the physiology, not mentality, of the pets they treat. I am CONSTANTLY having to correct/educate my coworkers and many are left in awe when I am able to do things with some of the more problematic animals that most of them could only dream of bc they just don’t understand basic dog communication and body language.

theamazingweewee
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I want to say thank you to both Joel and Zak for having this conversation and starting it amongst each other communities. I go back in forth between a lot of methods. And I think we all incorporate ideologies from both people. I think this new statement will allow us to all come together once again to see where everyone stands and help each other out. We all want to show love and care for our dogs. We all want them to love and feel the world around us in a positive way. Onward we go!

acollierr
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And this is why I love Beckman. He doesn't bash other trainers or methods but definitely admits when he doesn't align with certain ideas and will tell you why.

Regal.pup.
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Thank you soooo much!! Really wanted your opinion on this. Since getting my puppy from abroad I've not only had positive trainers try help which hasn't worked with issues I have...but now I have a balanced trainer who agrees with all you say and I've shared your vids with as well as my friends who are all so greatful!! The change in my puppy and older dog are down to your advice! Thank you so much 😀

jadeh
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Preach it! I love that you responded and took a stand on this ridiculous agenda. I like Zak - he's a wonderful at shaping behaviors and I've learned a lot from him to teach tricks. But trainers like you and Tom Davis are teaching practical, real world techniques for dealing with challenging problems. Keep up the good work!

philcannizzaro
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I’ve followed Zak for all my dog training until my latest puppy. I did all the things right but she displays rough play, dominance and was still dog reactive. I believe positive reinforcement is a core foundation but it doesn’t account for poor breeding, and genetics. I’ve had to stray away from that and learn new techniques to build a better quality of life for me and my dogs.

tiffersj
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I randomly came to this channel after getting a second dog. The second dog was super chill but it was for my first dog where my wife and I had pretty much zero idea how to train an animal and the dog recently had a surgery on it's leg so we needed to be able to control the first dog. Our first dog would basically ignore our commands and would even pee on the couch. It seemed crazy to get a second dog, but we are 99% sure it was our first dog's brother. Anyway, after watching about 10 of your videos and applying what I was seeing in just two days I've noticed a dramatic improvement in our first dog. I'm so glad I found your channel and now know it's okay to do certain things to correct dog behavior when previously we thought it was wrong.

john-paulmathieu
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Excellent post. I agree. If these tools become banned here as they are in European countries, you will see a shelter crisis like NEVER before. Glad you posted this... I'll post my retort soon!

RobertCabralDogs
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This is exactly why I fostered 15 dogs last year. The owners couldn’t control them because they were afraid to tell the dogs no and gave them up. So sad.

templenaff
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I can tell you, had I used positive only with my dog who has had several homes before me and everytime got returned to the shelter due to he’s aggression, he would’ve been put down by now…

He turned out to be terribly misunderstood, under socialised and dominant… but, he loves dogs! He loves playing with dogs! He hasn’t had a day without another dog since I’ve had him, and when my other dog had operation and was in a hospital for two days he got very depressed… he has now loads of friends all different sizes and breeds loves them all and knows to not to play too rough with smaller dogs…

But he was vicious and had also some redirected aggression to handler, R+ only would’ve only led to have to put him down. I’m so grateful for this channel, we’ve benefited so much from your content.

calmkclinic
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You said it best in another video a few weeks ago. The kids (and dogs) that no one wants to to play with on the playground (or dog park) are the ones who are only receiving positive reinforcement.

Positive reinforcement works until it doesn't. No one wants to be mean. We just want well behaved dogs who can interact with humans and people safely.

Thanks so much for your videos. They have helped us so much. Keep it up.

kellyjo
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Mr. Beckman, thank you so much for this video! I feel like your opinion is the balanced one and I love the balanced side of dog training. A few years ago I got my first full blooded Cattle Dog. She is truly an incredible dog and is now actually my service animal as I have a disability and am currently confined to a wheelchair. It was very difficult with my girl at first because even though I was able to teach her many things because of how smart cattle dogs are she didn't respect me because I was physically incapable of backing up what I was telling her. One set of trainers actually advised me to rehome her even though she was glued to my hip because she would never be what I wanted and I would not be able to control her given my disability. But I could not give up on her like that, I knew the potential that she had. She had developed really bad reactivity to other dogs around me due to not being socialized enough as a young puppy because I was very ill at the time. But because I am stubborn, or determined lol and we got with the trainer that we have now and started working with an e-collar. While her reactive behavior has admittedly not gone entirely away it has gotten unimaginably better. She never wanted to hurt anything or anyone, thankfully. She would just simply lose her damn mind, especially on lead. I now work at that training place I began taking her to and I spend my time helping others not give up on high energy, high drive working dogs. I now have Willow, my first Cattle Dog as stated above, Titan, a 6 month old Dutch Shepherd, and I am in process currently of rescuing another heeler puppy. This is important because this is a very ableist statement! I would not have been able to keep my dog safe without the use of e-collars, let alone training them at the level that they are now. There are three main trainers that I watch on YouTube @Beckman'sDogTraining and @UpstateCanine if I didn't do the @ correctly I apologize. I've never tried to do them in a YouTube comment before. But please somebody talk about this! I swear to God all positive all the time simply does not work! There has to be balance...and I love Zak George, no shade at all, but you guys people give up on some great dogs!

Blessings to all!

CodedBookworm
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Agree 100 %. Positive reinforcement when possible - negative when necessary!

ringerheringa
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Something else that stands out to me and I’ve always noticed since I was little is that just because people work at a veterinary office whether they are reception, or all the way up to the veterinarian themselves, they don’t necessarily know or understand animal behavior as well as someone like Joel who has dedicated a significant portion of his life to it. To learning, observing, understanding and interpreting animal communication.
I always find it a bit offputting (I know they have good intentions) when you walk into the vet office and everyone starts talking to my dog in a high pitch baby voice and it just gets the dog worked up. Instead of just staying calm, maybe not engaging with the dog at all.

KingsMom
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Here is the thing: I'm all on board with positive reinforcement. i just wanna see an aggressive dog be cured through that idea. Once I see it I'll believe it. Until then, I'll keep using aversive when I need them.

Regal.pup.
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I think Zac George’s take on the findings was excellent, he was very measured in what he said and didn’t condemn anyone’s approach.

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