Stephen Wolfram DESTROYS Time! His New Theory Will SHOCK You

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Isn't it beautiful when the math just works out? Check out this clip from my interview with Stephen Wolfram, in which he beautifully illustrates time dilation and related phenomena!



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What's the best definition of time you ever heard or invented?

DrBrianKeating
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I particularly enjoy that Wolfram’s ideas aren’t coming out of an institution like Stanford or Cambridge. They are coming out of something akin to Edison’s labs. Possibly on the theoretical side you have to actually be outside “the box” to think outside the box.

gteichrow
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So time dilation is analogous to low frame rate in a game engine, sort of- seems reasonable enough.

progrob
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There I was planning to relax on a Friday night but someone else figured I should leave my brain switched on

dammitdad
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I'm not sure if he's describing physical reality anymore... his ideas work, when computated, but, digital computations, and quantum computations have limitations which are differient than each other, and, AFAIK, he, nor anyone else for that matter, hasn't unified those things.

He's describing both QM, and classic mechanics without describing the gray area, and the gray area is where both of them break down, and cannot successfully be merged with the other.

inxiti
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"Time is just an inexorable process of computation" -Wolfram
This requires demonstration...

James-lljb
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Adding to what time dillation is I think mass is computational load of given "cell" of space. That's why mass curves space-time. Singularity would be a state where more computation is being "queued" each step than can be performed. Because space is causally linked it creates gradient of computational load hence gravity.

borzydar
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So what is 'computational power'?

SeanGilchrist
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Many rocket technicians from southern countries starting there at age of around 25 and arriving in our country at age 16. They know how time diletation works very well.

exif
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Mr Wolfram and Mr Keating, we (most listeners) are going to need you to explain this in simpler language to allow us to understand what exactly you mean by all this.

tylerfoss
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0:59 ok. Why is it not true that the computational energy effort to create motion would not then have a natural by product of time? If so does this still add up? Or maybe this is what he said but I heard him frame it as individual events initially then say some energy is spent on time while in motion but less so. Why is it not an equal amount as a result? What makes it less so, are they not bound?

I think, maybe, time is a by product of physical motion. Light and sound waves are “gifted motion” in a sense (from?) and so are able to move through space-time/ time-space differently (entirely how ever a direction or no direction at all can occur which is similar to motion but I think might be the other half of it, the reflection of it. Everything has a yin/yang, balanced counter part to it) than other types of physical matter. .. Entropy is, or, might be too broad a word, I don’t know of a new one to use), but my thought is entropy ought to be attached to physical matter and the non physical matter has a different idea for the way in which it changes form from its initial entry point of observable/detectable existence. It’s own term for entropy.

Motion is the sustaining of physical in some degree. Other events take /use motion to breakdown/digest discarded physical events. Like decay.

So, time exists as a by product of motion, right? If yes, somehow, then doesn’t it need no computational effort? It’s .. similar to exhaling a by product. There is effort yes but it’s a consequence of motion, intention, of things in the body functioning and the value is the inhale and exhale to inhale again the life sustaining properties of air to a body.

There is likely a better analogy than that but since this is a comment section on you tube and I feel slightly like some one, if anyone, will a respond in a condescending sociopathic way why think too hard on it.

Just because a computation can be done, a mathematical determination of explanation and it is all checking out, did you move through time and not space? Sure, likely so. I sit and think and in space I can observe and with basic math skills if need be, determine I did not move in space. Yet, I can still observe decay. Because I am witnessing a thing, this is .. moving through space?

So, just to take it back to the top, what I was only meaning to say is that if it’s about time or motion then one is the event of the other, it seems. And like a breath and living as a result which means I need to exhale to do so, time requires motion and if you want to bypass time, like how other wave forms can do then you need to disregard space as well. Ok, so .. quantum entanglement except someone caused the corresponding entanglement particles to be in a location in space in order to claim this event occurs by physical observations in space which means time and motion. .. so if one wants to bypass it all, they have to discard anything bound to motion/time.
Or utilize the initial force of whatever light/sound uses. It’s sort of like, asking something in the 4D to do it for you or have access to a propellant and a doorway/rift.. whatever.

This is really why anyone cares about quantum and thing, right? Time-motion-space.

Then.. but not really. Because you can’t have any use whatsoever for any of it when you don’t apply the laws of entropy as in you don’t care at all about time when you are not bound to it.

So, one wants to discard the rules of a thing but also wants to maintain the rules of a thing simultaneously but to what end?

The very rudimentary view might be all the uses of saving lives and knowledge from other concepts of time/ timelines/planes of planets/existence. All of this involves the laws of physical ness as we know them. All of the things we imagine in science this was is about being alive as we are. All the results we can think we are working towards remains in the physical experience. So, what is the point of trying to circumvent or discard the rules? I think we, maybe, if we solve for the actual reason we think it pertinent to do a thing to not do a thing then.. we would have it solved for all of it.

Most likely, it’s just because it sounds fun. For those of us who don’t live a life in a servant status to ..our lives, anyways.

If you stop motion? Do you stop time?
If you stop time can motion still occur?

ConsciousConversations
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Even more intriguing but rarely spoken about, is people rushing to their destination because they don't have time.

unadomandaperte
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Well. Once the wave function as you call it is physical, time is physical too. In the terms of the ground state, when the generators doesn't act on the vacuum manifold there is no time, but neither anything physically meaningful. So if you wish time is real for all objects exist in physical form. Furthermore, everyone phase change also resulting phase transitions are physically determine future system states. Even if you reverse a liquid to vapor and back to liquid, time doesn't go backward.
The fact that we fluctuating between phases of states but maintain structure for extended period of time. Until the system decoupling or some phase transition create fast increase of complexity and breaks down

JAYMOAP
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Thank you for the ear candy Brian & Stephen. 😊

northwestalternativemedia
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Sabine sure gave me a great gift this weekend!

MrHichammohsen
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What comptutation is implemented by moving? It seems that the location is updated in continous movement. The distanced to other relative locations also are updated, and momentum, velocity, mass, and wide dimension measured parallel to the trajectory.

Urix
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Time must be related to the speed of information and the rate of information processing. It takes less computation to update a spatially fixed state than a moving state. That is, if the computation rate in our reference frame is like "tik-tok-tik-tok...", the rate for some other frame is 👀

xjuhox
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so - in effect- every time we move, even minutely, we also move ahead in time. The faster we move the more computational power required to recreate a new you in a completely new environment(aka universe). So creating this new environment rather than just adding on to an old environment logically requires more computational power and hence the trade off is time moving slower as computational power is finite and there would have to be a trade off either in time or space.

ricdesouza
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Actually if you think of it in a much more simple way, the kinetic energy slows the decay of the cesium atom as the energy is transformed as a nechanicke force in the atom

MrGrimvG
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I remember reading and trying to grasp the idea that when you are sitting still you are moving through time at the speed of light, so when you move you are borrowing from your motion through time. It seems like Wolfram is saying that what you are borrowing is 'computation'. Now I'll chew on that while I chop firewood for the next couple months.

GreatBoneStructure