What We Expect from WWDC and Google I/O

In this clip, Marques, Andrew, and David go over what they're expecting to see from the upcoming developer events from Google and Apple. Plus, a new bet gets made!

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[klimentbassev]

Marques better buy those guys separate microphones or they finna unionise 😂

[claudiogofe]

"Some companies are just getting started with AI, but here at Google, we've already evolved from it."

[onemorechris]

i don’t even care if they piggyback off Google; siri needs a 100% redo.

[constantinmogos]

3:25 The keyboard is worse especially when you use two or more languages. If I forget to switch from English to the other language that I’m typing, it will add words to the English vocabulary or suggestion list from the other language. And for many times when I’m typing in English, it suggests me words from the other language. The second annoying thing (I don’t know if it’s related to the keyboard), is when you try to edit a text, select words or phrases, or just to move the dash wherever you need, it just misses and the dash moves wherever probably Apple thinks is good for you and not where you want it to be.

[supimjoe]

Curveball would be Apple doesn’t even use the words “AI”. Just how they like to use their own marketing terms. Like how it’s not called a fingerprint scanner on iPhone it’s called “Touch ID”. It’s not an OLED HDR display, it’s called “Super Retina XDR”. My bet they don’t call it AI, they call it like “Apple Mind” or something like that lol

[armansoudi]

"We're in the thick of it, but I also think last year was thicker. Marques used all his energy to not make any joke about that sentence. 21:05

[zedrake]

My bet: Sundar Pichai joins Tim Cook on stage to announce the collab. The pitch deck itself will show just the Gemini branding but verbally Cook will say Google. If I'm wrong, round of coffees on me for the Waveform team.

[nightshadesalad]

I was mid 6 mile run when I found out that Gemini can't play songs from YTM. Why would they even release Gemini as a replacement to Assistant when it can't even do the basics?

[nicktsandercock]

Wasn’t it announced that they have a deal with Anthropic too? My guess is Siri does local AI for secure things and then you pick your LLM for external queries. During setup, pick Gemini, Anthropic, OpenAI etc…

[icsolano]

If yall believe it’s all about Craig like this comment.

[yevheniimelnychuk]

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[yumenalghusain]

It bothers me every time, why the other two guys back there don't have separate mics, i mean they have all the resources….

[bgjck]

I think why Google launches the A series phone at a later date is because the original Pixel A series phone (Pixel 3 A) was launched after the Pixel 3 and 3 XL (This is probably because they came up with the 3 A after they already were working on the the 3 so it ended up get launched later) and Google just decided to continue launching the A series at the same time every year.

[btvaldivieso]

Solid discussion!

On Apple and their usage of the term AI — I remembered Steve Jobs corrected Walt Mossberg, in an All Things Digital conference (D8), that Siri isn’t a search company rather an AI company. Then, there was a brief moment of pause.

Prior, Walt kept classifying Siri as a search company — and Steve kept trying to correct him 30 minutes into the sit-down.

[AllHandsOnEveryThing]

"An Incredible amount of things that people are branding as AI now were just machine learning thats been happening for a long time". ok! i'm finishing this video to the end🔥 great timing😂😂😂

[Konayo_]

It's not really possible/feasible to use Gemini locally. You probably wouldn't even be able to run mistral or gemma with 7b parameters on an A17 or snapdragon 8 gen 3 chip (considering max ram of 8gb and 12gb respectively anyway).

[hiddendrifts]

2:25 that's a good way to look at it, they wait to make sure a piece of technology isn't just a passing trend

[KelvinF]

the guy just described how Apple works in a single simple phrase: 
2:29 "all of the new features have been out already, and they waited until it was definitely popular, polished the hell out of it, and popped it out"

It has been like that for years and everyone knows that! And I would even add that Apple most of times makes a feature popular. They can say whatever they want, that a certain feature came centuries ago in the other OS, but when it comes polished and useful in iOS, it is always a hit, and other brands follow.

[carpediem]

I think Apple will release a private and secure personal assistant AI (iPA) that lives on device to handle personal tasks, but utilizes Gemini on the backend for larger context questions/info/work requests. iPA requests to Gemini will be anonymous. Personal data stays on device and is managed and secured by iPA.

[KlutchAndJerel]

I think when talking about certain features, they will say something along the lines of “and we partnered with Google to bring you (X feature)”.