Will Man City's success be tainted if GUILTY? 💰 | Carra & Nev on Man City FFP charges | MNF

Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher discuss whether the Premier League is becoming a one-horse race with Manchester City's dominance and share their thoughts on the financial fair play charges the club is facing.

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[ber-evvo]

If you get charged 115 theres no way your innocent

[LeedsLUFC]

Anyone who thinks they will be found guilty is crazy. They will get away with it. Even if found guilty, they won't have their titles taken off them.

[James-tzqe]

Major changes are needed to the sport across Europe. It shouldn't be a choice between FFP where only a couple of established top clubs can win, or letting people who have unlimited wealth spend whatever they please. It needs to become much more of a level playing field to keep it exciting.

[jeffshaw]

Wenger called this out 25 years ago and everyone laughed at him.

[silentone]

You cant win versus a club backed by a nation, they have unlimited funds for legal defence

[StonedCabbage]

Should have had a points reduction like Juve but the FA would never let that happen because they love their Oil clubs

[onsetix]

1:34-1:38 funny how gary was still looking at the camera while they were starting a new segment 😂

[Gaggyboy]

If City are Innocent then why would they want to drag this out over a number of years? If they are found innocent on technicalities ( best lawyers) then surely FFP’s credibility will become completely flawed and possibly not fit for purpose and what about other clubs that have punished for similar (albeit on a lesser scale) but same offence, surely this would then become a legal minefield

[mohammedfaiisal]

Not a city fan but they aren't going to be found guilty. No chance. If they do, their league titles won't be taken away from them, it'll just be tainted

[Mantis_Toboggan_MD.]

3:15

I agree with Gary that the idea of a local businessman buying his home town team and ploughing his own money in, Isn't a bad thing in its own right.

BUT there does need to be protections in place.

If you look at the example of Gretna FC in Scotland from about 15-20 years ago. Millionaire Brooks Mileson bought them and at the time they were non-league and playing to 100-200 fans each week.

He signed a bunch of players from Scottish Championship (and lower end SPL) clubs and of course Gretna quickly romped through the various Scottish divisions in consecutive seasons, they even reached the Scottish cup final in 2006, and all the while you'd be lucky if they had more than 1, 000 home fans at their games but they had a wage bill on par with clubs like Aberdeen or Hearts (who average about 15K-20K attendances)

Ok so what's the problem?

The problem is that Mr Mileson was diagnosed with cancer and died midway through Gretna's journey to the SPL. His next of kin decided that they didn't particularly want their inheritance money being used to fund a football club and they pulled the plug on it. So Gretna FC then found themselves having to pay a top flight wage bill on crowds of 1, 000 fans. They of course couldn't and quickly went into administration and then liquidation and then no more Gretna FC! All because one man wanted to "live the dream"

This is what could happen to any small/medium size football club if there are no FFP rules. The dream can very quickly turn to a nightmare if your benefactor ever decides to turn off the money faucet!

[Horus]

I don't see how 115 charges couldn't result in a guilty finding? That would be insane. And if they are found guilty, the EPL/FA whoever have to take action similar to what we've seen abroad (in Scotland and Italy for example); relegation and stripped titles have to be seriously considered as options

[rossmullen]

Quick enough to punish the smaller clubs like Wigan Bolton etc

[TheSt]

The PL will quietly drop the charges . Many of the current City team bring huge commercial and football value to the Premier League as a product . The Premier League will be aware of that fact and won't want to lose that aspect.

[adamdowling]

They can’t wait 4 years to sort this, aside from anything else the rest of the league need to know where they stand with FFP. Chelsea, Newcastle potentially Man Utd with new owners, will be wanting to splash the cash but no one will dare until they know the results of this enquiry. In the meantime the advantage City have gained by breaking the rules will continue to pay dividends for them. We need a decision immediately one way or the other.

[GucciLuchi]

Even if guilty, they will get away with it, we’ve seen this so many times

[PirateRemy]

Bottom line is Guardiola is a great manager but he would never be at City if not for the free money they were given.

[lawrenceprice]

FFP was created by the established top European clubs to stop City and PSG from competing in the champions league. The problem is it filters down to everyone else meaning only the big clubs can spend big money, regardless of the wealth of the owners. The only way for FFP to work is if there's a hard cap that's the same for everyone, maybe with some kind of luxury tax allowing clubs to go above with the taxed money being redistributed to grassroots infrastructure.

[jamiiiedee]

I think scrapping ffp altogether is a massive mistake, why allow clubs that are backed by massive revenue to float even further away from clubs below them. Although I am up for suggestions in ways it could be improved

[pbw]

That’s a weird point from Gary. We all know clubs have periods of dominance. It’s just that city have got to that point illegitimately.

[Dogg]

If city can get away with it once a few years ago then they can do it again. Liverpool have done things the right way and would have had at least 3 titles by some margin, also other clubs. Obvious they are guilty tbh