From Black Power to BLM | Glenn Loury & John McWhorter | The Glenn Show

0:45 Thanksgiving with Glenn and John
6:50 Glenn the patriarch
10:35 John Lewis’s legacy
15:48 Ground News ad
17:49 From John Lewis to Stokely Carmichael to Jesse Jackson to BLM
25:21 To isolate or to integrate?
27:41 What black activism could have been
32:02 John: The Black Panthers accomplished nothing
40:04 ACTA ad
42:18 James Baldwin’s “nutty” late work
44:45 James Q. Wilson’s prescient attitude toward Glenn’s leftward shift
52:43 The “conservative” absence at the National Museum of African American History
55:11 John’s investigation of contemporary Yiddish speakers

Glenn Loury (Brown University, Manhattan Institute, Late Admissions) and John McWhorter (Columbia, New York Times, Lexicon Valley). Recorded December 1, 2024.

[zaphodsndhead]

This is an anecdotal story. I grew up in Fort Worth TX and graduated from HS in 1986. FW was (and still is) very mixed between white, black, hispanic and a sprinkling of other backgrounds. My entire education experience was post segregation my schools were very, very mixed. At times I was bussed and at other times other students were bussed. No one, except a few cowboys that hated everyone, gave a damn what color anyone was. All the teams were mixed. There were many mixed couples. Desegregation was WORKING and we were becoming the first generation to live in a post racist world. We have taken MANY steps backwards and it pains my heart that race baiting and dialectic poison has ruined the amazing strides that the previous generations worked so hard to build.

[kmaidotia]

Glenn's production team do A GREAT JOB adding pictures of books and people mentioned in the podcast. That takes the podcast to another level.
I remember in the early days when Glenn would mention all these books in passing and I would have to go listen like 5 times to get the title, now it's all in the podcast.
Great job Glenn's team!!!
Mark, Lucas and Nakita 🎉🎉

[converse]

Glenn's reverie over his Thanksgiving leftovers in the first 30 seconds of this video made my afternoon. Thanks Glenn!

[peterzthomas]

Its good to see John so relaxed and smiling. His acute TDS was really flaring up for the last few months. Im over it too. Well done gentlemen.

[jacobcochrane]

These two guys just chatting, old friends - this is peak quality. Thank you both.

[ericjohnson]

Thanks Glen. As a highschool educated 30 yr old truck driver, these conversations are a blessing for me. Stay healthy.

[taylorbrown]

Glenn is America's wise Grandfather. Not just the Patriarch for his family. The Patriarchal intellectual for all of us living in the West. His life story is the finest form of American exceptionalism 🇺🇸.

[dianaocean]

Acknowledging, also, that John is "bouncing back", and he still has my deepest appreciation and respect! I made a harsh comment recently, but today I reiterated my "devotion" to his intellect and professionalism! 🙏

[oceantree]

I love the fairness and honesty with which these two engage w one another.

[joshua]

That intro story of Glen's Thanksgiving brought tears to my eyes.

[jburdsixnine]

One of my favorite podcasts. Thanks Glenn and John. We are Americans warts and all! Yes Yes Yes

[vegasstevo]

Wow, glad to see John back in form. Pleasant, informative show.

[jamesh]

I love you guys, two excellent men of courage and determination. You are the John Lewis and MLK of our own age, and it’s only due to people like Kendi and Newsome and others that your efforts are even necessary today.

[diviner]

Thanks for the conversation. Love you guys!

[DC-ybff]

I can tell you what the next step of the civil rights movement should have been. You guys! The celebration of brilliant and smart men. I grew up in the 80’s with a very racist father. I still have the embers of that upbringing. My three sons do not. Not at all. We were almost beyond racism. Then the DEI and BLM happened.
Great show gentlemen!

[dongrinolds]

It's amazing how Glen and I have such simular views. And I am originally from rural Noth Dakota. Racism is taught and there are many who make a living pushing racism and dividing us.

[aldoluvs]

MAGA here, and fine these conversations enlightening.

[zaphodsndhead]

A friend's father and mother immigrated to the US from Russia (escaped) in the 70's. Their son always thought of himself as Russian. In his mid 20's he had the opportunity to study for one summer on Moscow. He quickly realized he was NOT Russian but completely American. It is popular to claim America has no culture but we, in fact, do have a common culture and then many sub-cultures based on region and ethnicity but we do share a common culture here in the US which is distinct from even Canada.

[DouglasKindred]

This is interesting as a white man born in Illinois in 1961, and grew up In NC, Alabama and Tennessee. As a child I saw MLK and Lewis as good honest men, doing the will of God. I saw Farrakhan and Carmichael as lost men. Men who did not know God, men who did not know the Love of Christ, men filled with hatred, and I saw them as a huge danger. I later saw Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton as false teachers, lost men claiming to be men of God while their speech betrayed them! And it’s continued to worsen with men like Kendi. Now I want to comment on John, s statement about the 1970s. I actually saw the 1970s as a great time at my Junior High School in Riverton Alabama and my High School in Grand Bay Alabama because it seemed to us that Racism was over. Of course there were individuals who were racisist but on the whole it was good. My schools weee integrated roughly 50/50, and we all loved one another. We went to school together’ played on the same sports teams, worked on the same farms picking watermelons, tomatoes, okra, pecans and cotton. White and black living among one another in harmony, peace, love and mutual respect. We traded horses together, raced horses together, blacks, whites, and Cajuns. Same thing when I went to college in Tennessee and Grad school in Rochester NY. But, but… I was shocked in Rochester in the 1980s and 1990s that it was very segregated and definitely more racist than my upbringing in Alabama. Gentleman I must say that the reason for Racism is that we have forgotten God and turned away from Christ. No person who is filled with and led by the Holy Spirit of God can hate anyone because of race. It’s literally not possible. Instead the spirit filled Christian loves their neighbor!

[RePlaylist]

Who remembers arriving early just so you can dig the dining table extenders out of the backside of garage? Again! 😂