This RULING DEFIES LOGIC…

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#YuGiOh #Ruling #TCG

[justinfarias]

Psychic End Punisher: “I’m unaffected”
Mirrorjade: “My lawyer says otherwise”

[Badbufon]

Playing Yu-Gi-Oh must be a hell of an exercise to become a lawyer.

[turtle-bot]

From what I'm understanding of the ruling, it seems as though mirajade is activating a lingering effect, similar to droll, maxx c, or vfd, where technically the effect activates, but it doesn't activate to perform an action, it activates to apply a lingering status to the game state for the turn that will resolve itself whenever the trigger condition is attempted to be met.

In simple terms, mirajade activates it's effect to apply a floodgate style lingering effect that resolves itself in the end phase to destroy the opponents monsters, it does not activate an effect that performs an action immediately.

[ViperRulerlm]

I feel like an easy way of looking at this is "activated effects" vs "resolved effects." Activated effects would require the player to initiate them by saying so while resolved effects are effects that will resolve simply from the progression of the game state.

[mikemosc]

The effect becomes a lingering effect. The same way as negating crimson blader on your turn after your opponent destroys your monster on the previous turn Still locks you out of summoning certain monsters.

[bingo]

Here before the bot announced it in the server.

[motxmod]

This reminds me a bit of a play I've seen a few times while playing Ghostricks on Master Duel. The opponent would attack my Ghostrick Doll and then hit her with CbtG once she's in the GY. Her effect reads "When this card is flipped face-up: During the End Phase, change as many face-up monsters on the field as possible to face-down Defense Position, then you can Special Summon 1 "Ghostrick" monster from your Deck in face-down Defense Position, whose Level is less than or equal to the number of monsters flipped face-down by this effect."

Since her effect is a delayed or lingering effect, she's already resolved by the time CbtG can target her resulting in the opponent wasting an interaction, their non-link monsters flipping face down, and me getting a summon.

[ungulatemanalpha]

i got to find out about this a few months before everyone else because my pet deck includes a card that becomes an equip and attaches itself to an opponent's card, gaining control of it (Aiwass, the Magistus Spell Spirit).

It turns out the part where you gain control isn't an activated effect, so it works on dinosaurs under Misc, Cyberdark End Dragon, and Psychic End Punisher too.

[realmsofmtg]

During today’s regional in Utah, as a judge, I’m happy to say that this ruling hadn’t come up during the event, can’t say the same about the rest of the judging staff.

[DaRuS]

I think we should clarify things like this as lingering effects (meaning effects that happen later on in the phasing like mirrorjade)

[Mtgrathigodmt]

Thank you for getting back to answering ruling questions

[xsamura]

Konami needs to get it shit together man. One day we will have to apply to play yugioh and go to training like a job.

[LemonYGO]

Damn, how could they do this to my boy psychic end 😔

[SamuiNoBaka]

So from a purely mechanical perspective, Mirrorjade goes a bit something like this?:

1. Mirrorjade's effect activates.
2a. On resolution, a continuous effect is planted on the field.
2b. Said effect stores the turn number it was created in.
3. During the end-phase of its stored turn, the effect resolves to destroy all monsters your opponent controls, and then removes itself from the field.

...Konami should seriously start releasing flow-charts for how effects play out.

[SomeGuy]

Makes sense, its easier to think about these delayed effects as the activated condition being applied to itself (the instance of doing battle or being destroyed) and that then creating a lingering effect that lasts until some predefined resolution point as described on the card. The activation is not being applied to the monster immune to activated effects its being applied to the gamestate caused by an internal effect of the monster on itself. Least that's what it sounds like to me.

[narfd.]

I think the best term for this type of effect would be "Lingering effect resolution" as the effect itself is activated, but the resolution is handled somewhat like a lingering effect

[Quasartist]

I figure Mirrorjade saying "you CAN" implies that you can choose not to do that, ergo, activated effect. I think Punisher would win the conflict. The conditions are met when Mirrorjade leaves the field, but it's only setting you up to be able to activate the effect when the time comes.

[TheIbney]

Dino Player: Have you read misc?
Despia player: Have you read Mirrorjade?

[randomprotag]

only in yugioh can an activated effected not be clear. it makes most sense to define it as a effect that starts a chain link.

[darkside]

“Children’s card game”

Oh no the hell it isn’t.