Do we really need firebase in 2023

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[rishabhgupta]

Maturity when you realise it's a promotional video 🤬

[sahillimbe]

AppWrite not having push notifications is kind of a deal breaker for me. They have not given a timeline for when they will be coming up with that feature as it's probably the only important feature that Firebase has but AppWrite lacks. I do know we can still use firebase only for push notifications but then we can just use firebase for everything may be? Let me know what you guys think

[nerdbenana]

All these arguments, but no mentioning of reliability, monitoring, alerting, disaster recovery and all other important production matters. I guess those don't matter if you never intend to have your product succeed.

[subrotoxing]

Firebase power is its realtime feature... it has realtime and push notification (for when you are off app). appwrite realtime is nice but if you have intermitten connection or you need to push notification when you are outside the app, then you are out of luck with appwrite. If you do not need realtime then yea appwrite is totally great great great for small-medium projects 1000%. It could be fine for large project as well but I'm not sure if i have enough reference to claim that. Because the underlying techn is old school mariadb so not sure about performance there.

[toshitsingh]

I am really glad that I started from barebone of everything like dbs and vps to deploy own dbs. It makes things much more optimized to what I need and super cheap as well. Best part is you can store your db data offline so no locking of any company and no backup fees as well.

[sreekanth]

i think most important thing is control of your data and the ability for advanced querying. I'm still confused how people are using such backend as a service and build their whole business around it.

[akashdeepdas]

Pocketbase is also a nice opensource baas written in golang.
And it's entire backend is just in a executable file.

[toastrecon]

Re: Pricing at 4:04 - Maybe it's just me, but if you legit have 50k MAUs, and you haven't figured revenue out to where you can pay a few hundred to Google, you're wasting your time on something that people aren't willing to pay for or aren't brave enough to charge or come up with a value proposition that makes sense. Also, at that point, I'm guessing you could afford to migrate to something else, if you wanted.

[ab]

Everytime I have seen production firebase it involves a rewrite within a year. For education and a mockup it makes sense but I don't know who in there write mind would use it.

[HimanshuKumar-hpvj]

as for my personal projects which one should I learn ??

[tylim]

Firebase firestore, rtdb and functions are huge headache
It is fun in the beginning, but when you found out the quirks and you can do nothing about, that is when you start to regret
Firebase auth still is the best though

[costinvelicu]

As a learning devoloper, firebase quoata limit is massively frustrating, is appwrite or any other similiar service better at this ? I'm not particulary interested in analytics or any other production related features right now

[maitreyeesawant]

does it allow to host the website / app on appwrite ? like firebase does ? can we use it production purpose ?

[smartapartment]

thanks :) but it would be really cool if you could do a comparison between supabase, strapi, appwrite and pocketbase?

[tesla]

I think all these baas products are good for small scale projects but as project grows i think having a robust backend is necessary

[darshanthakral]

Sir, what are your thoughts on AWS Amplify? Should we also consider it along with AppWrite as an alternative to Firebase!!

[kisho]

how big files (e.g. video, long pdf, etc.) can be uploaded on those chat platforms to share in real time? how much data can be left stored in the chat? for how long time data remains stored?

[fluffybunny]

It is better to have a custom login system using custom tokens,

In our system we have firebase custom auth, email and password is stored in our backend and in firebase also, uid is linked to user

[maskman]

Sir, what abou Supabase? It has become my favorite BaaS right now, so easy to use, the api is clean and easy to read and understand, and CRUD codes are provided for us to copy and paste into project, I like it very much, and it has a generous free tier, what do you think about it? Could you please compare these two backend services in the following videos ? 🙏

[thatnaman]

I'm looking to contribute to appwrite as a developer. Really happy to see that you picked this up. It'd be great if we can get a video or two about it's codebase or how to contribute to it.