Even In John 1, Jesus Is Not God

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In this video, Johnny Barnes explores why the author of John 1 believes that God is someone different from Jesus, so we should not think that John 1:1 is teaching that Jesus is God. Also, some problems with the Trinitarian logic of John 1:1 are examined.

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Verses: John 1:1; John 1:1-18

Teacher: Johnny Barnes
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Great to hear from someone of a younger generation who has discovered the truth in the face of opposition.

aaronsanchez
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Love your work brother! This video reminds me of my John 1:1 Dilemma!

The John 1:1 Dilemma actually proves the Trinity false all by itself. Trinitarians read John 1:1 in one of two possible ways:

1) In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was WITH the Father, and Jesus WAS the Father.

2) In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was WITH God, and Jesus WAS God.

If a Trinitarian picks 1, they must state that Jesus IS the Father, which is heresy to a Trinitarian. If a Trinitarian picks 2, they must state that Jesus was apart from God, WITH God, but not God himself. Option 2 carries the further issue of forcing there to be two Gods, one that Jesus is WITH and one that Jesus IS. Obviously option 2 is heresy to a Trinitarian as well.

So that leaves you with zero possible options as a Trinitarian, and this is why John 1:1 precludes Trinitarianism.

lizzard
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Remember when he prayed to the father asking him if there was any way the father could remove the burden (crucification) from him ? If he was god he would have known that answer. Another thing, someone asked Jesus when the end would be and he said something like " nor i or the angels in heaven knows, but only the father". These two things makes me think hes not God but God's first creation. Also, when he says " if you know me, you know the father, if you've seen me, you've seen the father". I think he is speaking about his actions and spirit being of God's actions and spirit.

inscoredbz
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Great explanation without an arrogant comment tone.

nancypost
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Thank you for such a reasonable explanation of a verse I hear misused so often by those trying to prove a trinity doctrine. The Bible repeatedly refers to Jesus as God's son. That seems pretty simple to understand that they can't be one and the same. Or two and the same.

getx
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In luke 6.12 Jesus prayed to God (Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.).

aaronmosa
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I don't think Jesus last words were " Oh myself why hast I forsaken myself " .

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Trinity makes no sense...
And john 1:1 can also be translated as
the word was a god. "
This makes more
then this will make no sense for

Cors
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CLEAR AS DAY! GOD MULTIPLY YOUR BLESSINGS.

MichaelIbiloye
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The modern UU church in the US has become more of a humanistic philosophical organization. The last time I went to one years ago somebody was"offended" because I used the word God. They are so far from what William Ellery Channing taught that it's not really a church anymore. I am related to William Ellery Channing via his grandfather William Ellery, who was the signer on the declaration of independence from Rhode Island. -Dr. Janice Ellery

janiceellery
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Excellent explanation, in just 10 minutes. That's not easy for this passage. Good job.

kevingeorge
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Jehovah witnesses have been telling people the same thing about Jesus but a lot of people didn't want to listen to them.

riverman
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I didn’t realise ppl thought Jesus was God till a few years ago .. it never made sense to me as we are supposed to pray to Father through Jesus ..

Paygelove
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There is a much simpler explanation. John was writing to a Jewish audience. We should not take the Greek meaning for logos, but a Jewish one. For Jews the "the word" was " the *spoken* word".
In the beginning was the *spoken* word ("and God said"), and the word was with (toward) God and the word was God *speaking* . The Greek "toward" reminds us that when God speaks it is like a boomerang, coming back toward him in glory, fulfilling that to which it was sent.

pmac_
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Good man and good teaching.
May I please add:
Notice how John 1:14 DID NOT SAY: And (GOD) became flesh and dwelt among us, as would be the case if John was teaching Jesus is GOD who became flesh, as MOST wrongly believe Jesus is GOD who became flesh.

John 1:14 continues saying: And we beheld His glory, a glory as of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Notice Jesus is: an only begotten from the Father, meaning Jesus was BORN and Fathered from His GOD and Father, proving Jesus is NOT the SAME GOD He was Begotten from. To be Begotten means to come into existence, and NOT always existing as most wrongly believe.

John 1:14 is simply saying the (word) of Yahweh became a living, walking, physical MAN, called The Word (OF) God in Revelation 19:13 and Yahweh's Begotten Son.

1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, set apart for the Good News of God, 2 which he promised before through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, 3 concerning his Son, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, 4 who was declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord, 5 through whom we received grace and apostleship, for obedience of faith among all the nations, for his name's sake; 6 among whom you are also called to belong to Jesus Christ;
Notice how Jesus first came into existence by HAVING BEEN BORN OF A WOMEN?

Please notice how we read in Acts 2:22 saying Jesus was a MAN, and nothing about Jesus being GOD, or an Angel, or some kind of Spirit being BEFORE He was BORN:
Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, (A MAN) having been set forth by God to you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by Him in your the midst, as you yourselves know.

Notice in John 8:40 how Jesus Himself confirms He is (A MAN) and says nothing about Himself being GOD, or an Angel, or some kind of Spirit being BEFORE He was BORN:
Jesus did speak figuratively by saying He came down from Heaven and simply meant He came from GOD as GOD is in heaven, just as Jesus tells us in Matthew 6:9 saying: Therefore pray you like this: 'Our Father (IN THE HEAVENS), hallowed be Your name!
But now you seek to kill Me, (A MAN) who has spoken to you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.

Romans 1:

Notice how Paul tells us that Jesus: was BORN of the seed of David according to the flesh, who was declared to be the Son of God, in line with what Jesus tells us in John 10:36 saying I am the Son of GOD. NOT GOD.

Notice how we do NOT read Paul saying Jesus PRE-EXISTED his flesh before David?
NOWHERE is it written that Jesus was already alive with GOD in heaven and was transformed into the BABY Jesus, unless you are reading the many false modern Bible translations.
But instead we read Paul saying Jesus comes into existence by the seed of David according to the flesh, in line with John 1:14 saying the word of GOD became FLESH, as the SON of MAN Jesus.

If Jesus was WITH GOD before He was BORN as a MAN, then WHAT WAS HE?

Notice how we read in John 3:16, how GOD GAVE us His only begotten Son, and yet most have been deceived into believing in a false Gospel teaching GOD came and gave Himself and madly believe died on the cross, when the truth is GOD cannot DIE, when it was GOD's SON who died, NOT GOD, which makes a false Christ.
Just as James 1:17 tells us:
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.

Jesus is truly a gift from GOD, when we take up our cross and deny ourselves by believing and following the true Jesus, we will be saved: For God so loved the world that (HE GAVE) the only begotten Son, so that everyone believing in Him should not perish, but should have eternal life. John 3:16. BLB.

IsJesusGod.
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In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God. And the word was godly.
The anarthrous noun takes on the properties of an adjective without the article.

larrythrasher
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This is why Isaiah 46:9 says: (Isaiah 46:9) Remember what happened long ago, for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me.) As we know there is no one that can be like God nor is God like anyone else.🙌🏽💪🏽 4:54

hectorm.bordonada
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Jesus Christ is The Word of God because through him all of God's purposes come true...That's why THE WORD became flesh: to fulfill all of God's promises and his sacred will...Jesus is depicted in Proverbs chapter 8 as Wisdom, personified...when we carefully read the account we can get a clearer sight of Jesus' role in God's plan... Colossians 1:15-18.
Jesus is"... The Christ, the Son of The living God..."
-Matthew 16:13-17.
May The Almighty God bless you in the name of his Son, our king and Lord, Jesus Christ..! Amen.

Christiannss
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Growing up with a song stuck in every sunday service seems like, god in 3 persons…it wasnt until I was in a college logic class that…wait a minute…🧐 and then having the ability to take a real good class at the time called power for abundant living, had me a changed person and still enjoy life…, ✌🏼🕊

lucycarin
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Good video i hope this channel will be posting more often, greetings from Slovakia

miko