Don't use these services for your SaaS

I've heard too many bad experiences from founders using services like Vercel, Heruko, Supabase, Netlify, etc. A few months ago, I got to experience it firsthand myself... 😩

Here's what you should do instead.

[null_spacex]

This sounds like a “they made me mad so I’m gonna shit talk them” video

[moonandastar]

Thank you Simon, Just on time, I really appreciate your advise!

[toptenagency]

Somebody has to set this kind of things and scratch this topics with honesty. Great video, great advice from the future experience. 🙌🏼

[jordigirvent]

clear things and thick chocolate, really apreciate your transparenci, and your warning

[ScottMaday]

1:52 “All the infrastructure has been conveniently abstracted away from you so when something doesn’t work beyond the basic UI, there’s nothing you can do about it” The same thing could be said about No-Code solutions as well. If you want to trade convenience you’ll have to sacrifice control

[marloncosta]

Thank you for enlightening a young SaaS entrepreneur brother, brother.

[martijnjansen]

The funny part is that there are a lot of cases with AWS S3 and cloudfront that they get ddosed too leading devs with thousands of dollars invoices even though they use WAF security 😅

[Ramuyko]

I disagree about disconsidering supabase like that... It's not just Saas, it's opensource, self hosting it on cost effective providers like contabo or webdock is still worth it as long as managing the server yourself is not a problem.

[KylePrinsloo]

My goal one day is to be as brave as you.

Sometimes, the truth hurts... but it takes a bold person to stand by it!

[kyrregjerstad]

Having that experience totally sucks! But what this video is failing to mention is that in all the cases on serverless horrors with Vercel, they refunded all the costs to the customer. They now have a better DDOS protection with the newly released firewall - something that should have been there from the beginning!

[rtorcato]

Supabase is great. It's open source and you can self host if you want to. Under the hood it's all docker services with open source tools. With your stack can would never be able to leave AWS.

[Innesb]

Vercel released DDOS mitigation for all plans, in March, 3 months before you published this video, but you didn’t mention this feature when referencing the tweet at 4:00, which was published in February, before the feature was available. It seems unreasonable to criticise Vercel for not having a feature without also mentioning that the feature has now been available for 3 months. If you were specifically criticising Vercel for not having the feature earlier, then fair enough, but that’s not how you presented it.

[fortnitebattleroyalewtfmom]

Finally, some said it, I was telling this to my clients, but no one listen.

[dkerdnase]

I'll be honest, this testament is only applicable to non-technical entrepreneurs who all they can do is complain about the vendor. For those people this is helpful. But what this doesn't cover is AWS and Google Cloud is charging premium which the entrepreneur is on-charging to the customer. DDOS prevention isn't a simple problem and requires state of the art expertise to do it right. One day if AWS, Google, Azure raise prices it will hurt the backside anyway. I'm a developer so I'm going with the self hosted approach and if I get a DDOS attack trying to resolve it myself without blowing out the bandwidth budget. Once I start figuring it out I won't need to pay the vendors as I own it. Also I'll be immune to vendor related changes. Thanks for your oppinion tho.

[TimaGixe]

Nice content, thank you very much! I am subscribing for more!

[marioflores]

You attacked two cults in one video. Respect

[Fatihkocakjoyboy]

I am learning to code myself to make myself more and more independent from nocode services. I love your message in this video. I would love to watch a video you explaining what exactly the boilerplate does and how the same looks in these nocode services to connect the dots in my 🧠.
On this note, I heard someone say that backend code is not really harder then frontend code but it often seems like backend is this crazy stuff

[Martin_Adams]

Completely agree with the sentiment of this video. This is one reasons why I avoid these types services as I don't feel comfortable not being in control. Personally I find AWS, Azure and Google Cloud too complicated for indie developers. I'm a happy Digital Ocean customer along with Hetzner which feels like the right balance of giving me control, without overloading me with jargon, settings, permissions, etc.

[lebon]

Love Supabase!! Yes every service / team can make mistakes. DBs fail all the time - the diff is in how responsive and professional they are in handling it.
Supabase is amazing 🔥

[RobShocks]

Mostly obsessed by the fact the steam from your coffee mug is a digital. Saw it a few videos back and now questioning all reality