What Moves You Will Move the World | Jocko Willink | EP 420

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with retired Navy SEAL, author, speaker, and podcaster, Jocko Willink. They discuss Jocko’s new speaking tour, the catharsis and upward momentum gained from genuine connection, the morality of a soldier, what a real leader is, and how to become one yourself.

Jocko Willink is a retired U.S. Navy SEAL officer, co-author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win, Dichotomy of Leadership, host of the top-rated Jocko Podcast, and co-founder of Echelon Front, where he serves as Chief Executive Officer, leadership instructor, speaker, and strategic advisor. Jocko spent 20 years in the SEAL Teams, starting as an enlisted SEAL and rising through the ranks to become a SEAL officer. As commander of SEAL Team Three’s Task Unit Bruiser during the battle of Ramadi, he orchestrated SEAL operations that helped the “Ready First” Brigade of the U.S. Army’s First Armored Division bring stability to the violent, war-torn city. Task Unit Bruiser became the most highly decorated Special Operations Unit of the Iraq War.

This episode was recorded on December 29th, 2023

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(0:00) Tour Update 2024
(0:40) Coming up
(1:20) Intro
(3:40) Jocko on tour
(6:46) PTSD, regret, and dealing with dramatic mistakes
(12:34) Extreme Ownership
(15:11) The fundamental attribution error
(16:48) When to discipline your child
(18:04) Why matters more than what
(19:08) Meet and greets, lecturing, live Q&A’s
(30:28) The real thing, Vivek Ramaswamy, Donald Trump
(32:32) Relaxation is not the greatest reward for success
(35:25) Know your prime motivators, the joy in helping others succeed
(39:07) Survival strategy, mosquitos versus humans
(45:39) Sacrifice and investment creates heightened returns
(50:31) “Intent has a smell”
(53:14) Your guiding star will manifest itself in everything you do
(56:31) Everyone sees what you’re doing
(59:56) How to get people to listen to you
(1:06:04) The fourth law of combat leadership
(1:07:29) Group division arises from ego
(1:10:04) The antithesis to power and force
(1:14:29) Psychological reactance
(1:17:04) the narrative theme of nearly all female pornography
(1:18:07) All traits become toxic if taken to an extreme
(1:20:09) Virtue is not reducible to one aspect
(1:23:40) Leadership is like woodworking
(1:26:16) Knowing when to let others communicate for you
(1:30:36) Self-consciousness is a facet of negative emotion
(1:35:11) The authoritarian mindset within the military
(1:39:21) Skimming, culture, and openness
(1:43:53) Leaving Bill Maher speechless, ARC
(1:45:54) How the military prioritizes targets
(1:48:00) Understand the why, and lead by invitation

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Jordan: Clean your damn room.
Jocko: at 4:00 a.m.

onyx
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“Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one.”
- Marcus Aurelius

brianbachmeier
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This should be called Reacher and the preacher

prolotomasi
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The fact that we can listen to this essentially for free is revolutionary.

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For those who are fatherless, those 2 men are good examples to follow and thrive

Carlos.Rivera
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Never clicked on a podcast so quick. A Scholar and a Warrior (truth be told, there's an element of each within either man) both unite in Truth and Courage. The full embodiment of the healthy masculine spirits that stand up against tyranny and chaos

hv
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Jocko and Jordan.. What an epic duo.. The absolute thinker and the absolute doer.. We're here for it.

Smurfy
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“A leader is best when people barely know he exists. Of a good leader, who talks little, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, They will say, “We did this ourselves.” -Lao Tzu

markowallace
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The exact opposite of who you’d expect as a guest for episode 420.

skylerDcarrillo
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When Jocko was talking about the mutual connection, I literally broke into tears... I have alone felt alone my whole life. Being on my on since 16 has had its challenges.
Podcasts and good genuine human beings have been my only companion through my darkness. .. but I'm a recovering addict who have given up smoking and who is back to fitness everyday and becoming more and more a person I can be proud to be
Thank you

sheriffbacara
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2 guys that changed my life in 1 podcast. Much respect to you both.

kenpiper
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I'm a 32 year old man that has worked in mental hospitals. I'm an avid JBP fan, and there are many struggling young men that I have shared his pearls of wisdom with, and it always seemed helpful. Except for one patient, he seemed to already know what I was emanating about JBP. He was avid about me looking up Jocko Willink, and studying some of his concepts. I never got around to consuming content in time to share any of it with him. This one's for you bud 💯

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Jordan, just wanted to tell you, that you were ON FIRE last night in Providence! My partner and I were in the 2nd row. I was wearing the red lobster tie during meet and greet. Unbelievable experience. Thank you.

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Thank you Peterson, I was a nobody 8 years ago when I stumbled upon your lectures at a low point in my life. Now I've started two companies both with successful exits. Telling the truth, adopting responsibility, and aiming upward toward the highest good. It just works.

Xayalan
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I love hearing Jordan Peterson speak. I wish Jocko, the guest, spoke more....

Cleansing_Fire
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Two of my favorite minds together again. Philosopher and Warrior

QuintonWaddell
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As much of this type content I consume, I’m rather shocked that this is my first introduction to Jocko. And at 28 minutes in, I have to say that I’ve got another new favorite.

JamesDean-O
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Two great men in one place. What a blessing!

masterchief
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Dr. JP giving me tools to heal my self-inflicted traumas again. Thank you sir. This was a big one. You are a miracle.

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Jordan's innocence in being transparent about his thoughts and passion on the subject is the irrefutable proof of his honesty and authenticity.
Love to hear it!

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