Sagrada Familia's Wild Stairway Controversy

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Do you agree with the architect's plan to complete Gaudi's designs?

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[A_Lion_In_The_Sun]

I believe the church owns the land, they've been collecting rent on those buildings to fund the construction. They've also been looking at plans that don't level both blocks, though imo, that's the best looking design.

[lefantomer]

I wrote a report on the progress of Sagrada Familia as a student at Massachusetts College of Art when I was 20. I am now 80 and neither of us is finished yet!

[DityMac]

Note these building were constructed knowing about the plans and granted with a temporary permission. They knew it, they just didn't expec this day to arrive. Also note the affected building aren't the entire blocks, but a central section.

[TenThumbsProductions]

When those houses were built they were told they would be torn down for the staircases… so the city does have legal high ground if not ethical.

[nickwilliams]

This video is a great example of how to mislead people by withholding information

[eddaines]

The demolition has been written into the deeds for these properties since the beginning. People living there knew when they bought in, at reduced prices due to the temporary nature of the buildings. Some sympathy, but not much. It was always the deal.

[Matticitt]

1. That was was planned
2. Not every building in those blocks needs to be removed
3. You can even see on sattelite view most of those are small and cheaply built precisely for that reason

[itint]

Everyone in Barcelona knows about those plans and that anyone living in that area one day will have to go and yet those people decided to live there, even though those were areas designed for the stairs - they cannot claim to be victims: they knew all along

[alx-vla]

Gadi submitted to the council a few arrangements and plans for the surrounding areas, many times. The council decided to block the construction by selling all the land and blocks, ignoring the street arrangements and "diagonals", removing any chance of providing the building with the areas required around it. This building was designed to be seen from the corners, not frontally. Av Gaudí is one of the radial axes that Gaudí proposed; nothing else survived. This was a political decision, and it worked in favour of Madrid's policies to cancel Catalan culture; Gaudí, like Pau Casals, were pro-Catalan independence.

[hypernewlapse]

this is like people who buy houses near to airports and then demand airport closure, if the deeds say the buildings must be torn down then they should be

[EustaH]

it is even visible from that satelite view where that entryway will be, cause those buildings are short and cheaply built, because the owners knew that they gonna be demolished. Also supposedly that was the original agreement between church and those developers

[amymagdaleneta]

the townhall and church are looking at ways to reduce the impact by making the staircase thinner and shorter and rehouse those that need to be moved, but i guess you can't say that in 56 seconds

[politonno]

No. More than a year ago Jordi Faulí, today's architect of the Sagrada Familia, already said that after COVID-19 the plans changed, and it's going to be finished in about 2030. In 2026 tho we'll have the Jesus Tower, which is the big central one

[candelavilagonzalez]

i live here! those who bought houses there bought them for a much cheaper price because they were told that they would need to relocate once constructions to expand the church starts. some complain about this but the reality is they’ve been warned ever since they started to live there as it was always the original plan.

[davepavillar]

For those who do not have an idea yet, the church is not just the only architectural masterpiece made by Gaudi...but the whole city itself. Gaudi designed how the zoning will look like in Barcelona. there is even a law that limits the height of the buildings, and of course the changes that can be imposed inside the city with regards to its architecture. The whole city is Gaudi's work of art.

[danielforrest]

In a city where they protest about airbnb regularly it seems stupid to demolish 150 homes

[TalenGryphon]

TBH we've destroyed plenty of homes to do much worse things like widen roads and build hotels. Finishing a massive art project is actually a pretty good reason in the grand scheme of things

[Kiirxas]

You can't expect to buy a home at a heavy discount in land that you don't even own and were warned several times over the years that they'd be demolished and then complain when they're to be demolished.

It's as if you got a rental car and then wanted to keep it and pretended to be the owner when the time to return it came.

[suzz]

I saw that place in 2007, it was beautiful, even with all the scaffolding that was on it back then. It looks like a hand dripped sand castle.

[antoninapiast]

Gaudi literally chose to die in the hospital for poor people over being transported to a luxurious one, he would NOT want that