Punishment in the Army

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In this video i explain how punishment can work in the Army. It could be a little mistake or something really big but ill talk about what can happen to a soldier when they get in trouble.

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In 1978 I went with a friend on a 4 day holiday weekend, and was gone 6 days. Returned to Fort Benning and received an article 15. In the article 15 I was giving 14 days restriction 14 days extra duty, a $250.00 dollar fine, and reduced fron E-3 to E-2 with suspended reduction to E-1 for 90 days. Well a buddy said my commander could not take two ranks with a company grade article 15. So I talk to a jag officer and he agreed, but I had to go through my chain of command to get it changed before he could do anything. So I went all the way up to the battalion commander. No go. So the jag officer took my case. Well a couple of weeks later I go by the officers club and see my jag officer hanging with my company commander. Well I just dropped the case and put a request in for duty change and was sent to Schofield Barracks. And things were forgotten, still made E4 and received a good conduct medal before my 3 year hitch was up.

robertbrown
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One soldier I served with got an article 15 because his wife wrote a hot check to the commissary. He didn’t write the check but he and his wife had a joint account.

harveynichols
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We had a guy in our unit that assaulted his CO (at a previous duty station). He was sent to the "Retraining Brigade" at Fort Riley, Kansas. After serving time there, he finished up the rest of his enlistment and was eventually honorably discharged.

It is very interesting how employers will do research into your military record. When I got hired as a cop, I signed a release form so my department could pull my 201 file from the Army record archives in St. Louis. After I got hired, I asked the human resources department about it. They told me that just because someone has an honorable discharge, it doesn't mean that they weren't a screw up while serving in the military. As you know, your 201 file contains a lot of information about your entire military service, including punishments if any. Needless to say, my record was spotless and I went on to a great career in Law Enforcement after my time in the Army.

dougtheeliminator
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The shittiest article 15 i ever got was when my company was deployed to Iraq. They got me for cursing out my platoon sergeant and squad leader. It was company grade article 15. We would do road mission then when we were done, I'd get to go fill sand bags for an additional 6 hours. Yeah... don't do that.

leonboyd
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Going to be joining when I graduate! Thank you for helping me get educated on what the army is about.

Ferrarik-fgyl
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Hey, Chris. First time I came across your channel was when I was thinking about enlisting and interested learning about boot camp. You’re so helpful and the information you put out there was very informative. 4 years later, here I am still watching you as a current service member. Thank you for all you. Thank you for your service!

adilmohamedahmed
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I was assigned to HHC Combined Arms Command at Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas. While I was there, two inmates of the Disciplinary Barracks (DB) had their cases overturned. Both were released from the DB to HHC while they were processed out of the Army. One was convicted on false testimony and received a settlement, back pay, and E7 retirement based on what JAG thought he would have attained if his career hadn't been interrupted by a stay at the prison.

hughsonj
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Message to new

If you get to your first duty station and you have not received your first 4856 ie counseling statement also called initial counseling. Say for example you miss first formation you do not have to sign that counseling because you never got an initial stating was is expected of you.

lelandgaunt
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When I was in Germany I had gotten to intoxicated out in town, the MP had to bring me back, resulting in a summarized article 15, 7 days restrictions, 7 days extra duty

mattwesley
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A buddy had 17 article 15's, both company and field grade in his career.He retired as a e3 in the guard.

romanlegion
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During my time in the military start date 76 in basic training we had a pit to settle disputes well I requested to enter that pit with a DI whom kept harassing me he refused but during our final days we received a 12hr pass and went into town. Me still angry saw this DI and I was out of uniform giving to us by the local USO so I approached him and said what you got to say now ? He didn’t say anything but proceeded to strike me fortunately a police officer saw the whole thing . In my defense I beat the daylights out of him and the cop told me to head back to base and say nothing. But other soldiers saw it. That morning this DI was out sick and upon our graduation my dad was in his Marine blues and I showed him this abusive DI and pops locked his heels . Thus he learned where my fighting abilities came from. Gotta love it . He learned never judge a book by its cover.

calvinrhea
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You should make a video touching on capital punishment, seems like a lot of people are interested in what that entails, love the vids man keep em up👍

ethanknight
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I've been waiting on this video for a while. Thanks for doing this one Chris. I love all your content you put up here. I wish someone would have put up all this stuff before I went in back in '06

treycollins
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This was very informative. From my experience, punishment can vary from the leadership and is a very deep subject matter. Just keep your nose clean and you’ll never have to worry about any of this. 🙌

jthavorn
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I got art 15 company grade, and yep two weeks duty 2 months half pay and a bump down. My extra duty was taking little rocks from one bed of rocks to another about 100 meters apart. 1 freaking rock at a time. 2359 was time to break camp and I got it worse because I didn't have much time to to get my uniform cleaned and squared away as it should have been so every day I would be doing up downs till I wanted to die. Yep only one time with that junk and I learned a lesson. ( No back-talk to your NCOIC)

brendafont
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Would rather due 50 push ups on the spot than a week of earl arrival but it does make sense that it would instill discipline in the soldiers

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actinganimal
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Most Commanders hate doing court martials, too much paperwork. Usually they opt to just do dishonorable or bad conduct discharge. Unless of course its very serious crime.

nebraskaninkansas
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I can tell you all about article 15s .. In my 16 years, I acquired 57 of them! Most of my time in the military (about 12 of my 16 years) I was a major (0-4) (NOTE: I did eventually make it to 0-5). At the 0-4 pay grade, there was a period of 2 months where I got so many Article 15s my MONTHLY pay was only $75. Please note: about 80% of these Article 15s were a matter of taking responsibility for the actions of those under my command. As a result of my willingness to protect my people, while I was only getting paid $75/mo... every person under my direct chain of command donated a portion of their pay to a collection and gave it to me. I ended up making nearly $1, 000 more, than my entire paycheck would have paid me!

What did I do with most of the money my subordinates gave me? At first I refused to take it ... military etiquette and all .. then I came up with a better idea... I set it aside as an emergency fund for the men and women under my command. "Your son is sick and you don't have enough for the medicine until you get paid? Here you go."

alleycat
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If a Commissioned Officer commits the same exact crime as an Enlisted member, the Officer gets a whole lot easier sentence than an enlisted member would get. One example : True story, A finance corps officer got caught stealing $26, 000 while on the job. CID could never get her to confess even though everyone else got cleared on any involvement. Guess what the Army did ? The Army promoted her and transfered her to a new base. If that had been an enlisted member stories would have been up regardless of a confession, sent the enlisted member to Leavenworth. The Officer Corps protects it's own. Sickening but, true.

rtaggs
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I have seen married soldiers get barracks restrictions. Meaning they have to move back to the barracks during that time, and are not allowed to leave the base...in those instances, you have to REALLY screw up for the military to deny you from going home

mattwesley