Red Sea Trade Theory is False! - Sources of Islam with Dr. Jay - Episode 19

A way to help explain Mecca’s early existence has been that the coastal city of Jeddah nearby was able to supply its needs through trade provided by way of the Red Sea, but there is a problem with this theory. Jeddah did not exist until the 8th century, a hundred years after the life of Muhammad. Not only that but the sailing routes of trade ships hugged the African shore for their fine ports, large populations, and freshwater supply - not the Arabian shoreline which lacked all these things. Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay review the historical and geographical evidence debunking the Red Sea Trade Theory.

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[siulong]

You should publish a book about all these discoveries putting together all the questions we have for Islam and its standard narrative.

[dsj]

It would be great to have a counter-argument from Muslim scholars. But when your opposition is silent, that is defeat enough.

[jamalkhan]

Another great stream. Very informative and interesting. Thank you for sharing 🙏❤️

[prophetic_dreams_and_visions]

I checked Jeddah Wikipedia page and they are claiming that it was founded in 6th century BC as a fishing village. No doubt they are lying as usual.

[georgeo]

Thanks for bringing historical facts and the truth for those that see the truth. Our eternal souls are worth the effort.

[mooktemas]

Thanks for all you do. May God bless you guys.

[MGM-ruoj]

Keep up the GREAT WORK guys and have a Happy New Year ❤

[nwachinemere]

Talking about water, heavy rainfall has flooded the city of Mecca today.

[UlugbekAzimov-nb]

Guided and teached: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.

[WiseMan]

Patricia Croner shut down the theory of the land trade route, which I believe is very logical, so the alternative will be the Read Sea route, isn't it?

[taniagarciaduenas]

Mecca was the religious point for uniting primitive Christianity among the Vikings for the export of grain between Egypt Syria and other countries across the country it was the first church built in the Middle Ages

[josepholaseni]

Well done Al Fadi and Dr Jay Smith.
This research exposed long time lies. 🤣🤣🤣

[jdub]

Why create Mecca?
Jerusalem? Damascus? Babylon?

[zombieturtleiscoolyt]

Holy Imran and His Family Title was Beduin and Maaaadi Arabic -- Maaad"un , Maaad"oon, Maaad"een,
Holy mum-ma Marium she was a maaadi Arabic -- Maaad"onna ( family title for the femail ) ,
Holy Jesus was a maaadi -- Arabic -- Maaad"un ,
Holy Muses was a Mount-Maaadi- Arabic --Mhun"un-Maaad"un =Mh-maaad"un = Mh-maaad ,
Holy Harun was a Moun-Maaadi Arabic -- Mhun"un-Maaad"un = Mh-maaad"un =Mh-maaad,
Holy Eliajah was a Moun- Maaadi Arabic --Mhun"un-Maaad"un = Mh-maaad"un=Mh-maaad,

Indeed Holy Prophet of Quran -- he was a Moun-Maaadi= arabic -- Mhun-Maaad"un=Mh-maaad"un,
Indeed who holy prophet he should be from House of Imran & he should be Maaadi , Arabic -- Maaad"un,
Indeed who Holy Prophet he Should be From House of Imran & he Should be Ahaaaadi - Maaadi arabic- Ahaaad"un +Maaad"un=Ahmaaad"un= Ahmaaad,
Indeed Holy Nobi Eliajah is the Moun-Maaadi = Moun-Maaad"un =Mh-maaad"un= Mh-maaad, & he is a Ahaaadi + Maaadi = Arabic --Ahaaad"un + Maaad"un = Ah-maaad"un , =Ahmaaad

[stevenjohnson-yxfl]

Quote this scripture to poor deluded Muslims ( Luke 16verse 16) it clearly states that there are no more prophets to come after John and Jesus who came after John he didn't include himself as a prophet because he is the son of God

[AHA]

🤔 Christanity has 40, 000 denominations.
Are all of them going to heaven?

Lol. Christans don't even agree who Jesus is.

Muslims don't want to get into this confusion mess.

[DRambe]

Thanks for the enlightenment brother Jay.

It's become clearer that something wrong with the SIN

[chainbreaker]

It makes sense that there are Ports at the African coasts of the Red Sea. There have been populated civilizations in Egypt at least since 3000 BC, but there has never been as much population on the Arabian side, and we don't know anything of Arabian civilizations comparable to Egypt.

So if the Red Sea was used for fishing or trade it is very likely that the first ports must have been on the African side.

[cascarrabias]

Jay, I have been researching coins, earth activities(volcanos, earthquakes, droughts, wars, migrations) and anything that history says about THAT TIME IN HISTORY.
I have been having some questions, here is one:

According to some Arab sources and Jean Jacques Emmanuel Sédillot, during the second campaign of the Muhammad against Damascus in 630-632, the Muslim forces were as follows: 10, 000 horsemen, 12000 camels, and 20000 infantrymen. General Brémond, who liberated Arabia from Ottoman rule during the First World War, thought that such a large number of horsemen was asking for too much water (400, 000 liters of water a day) for this to be plausible: “It would have been impossible, especially at that time, to maintain 30000 men and 20000 animals. In 1916-1917, we were able to provide for the 14000 men assembled in front of Medina, only for a little more than eight days, in spite of the considerable resources which came to us from India and Egypt by steamboats. In addition to this exorbitant number of Muslim soldiers supposedly present in Damascus around 631, the composition of this army presents another great improbability: It is a fact that horses and camels, who do not live in the same climates and are very different species, can not live together artificially. The smells of the one irritate the other, and vice versa. It is, therefore, difficult to conceive of the coexistence and cooperation of masses of these animals for the sake of a common and orderly task. It is as if one were to put regiments of cats and dogs on the same front to fight the enemy.
The horseshoe and stirrup appeared only from the 9th century on wards, so one can also wonder how this fantastic army traversed such great distances on this exceptional conquest. For example, 1400 km as the crow flies separates Mecca and Damascus, and this is desert. Before the arrival of the horseshoe, when one wanted to cross a dangerous terrain on horseback or by camel, one wrapped his feet with leather to protect them. Brémond said on this subject: “I have here another unfavorable condition which opposes the myth of the invasion of North Africa by an Arab cavalry, sprung out of the deserts of Arabia. They would have traveled 3000 km with non-ferrous horses. These horses would have worn their hooves to the calf.”
If all these data are taken into account and a Muslim historical source claims that the Last Prophet attacked Damascus around 631 with 30, 000 men and 20, 000 horses and camels (with their natural aversion to one another) we do not can only conclude that in this account of the composition of the army, we are at best witnessing the imagination of a Muslim chronicler, riveted with the legendary origins of Islam. To try to better understand what would have really happened, and even as we shall sometimes return to other relevant topics and histories, we will focus much more from now on the Muslim conquest of Spain, and to a lesser extent dwell on the conquest of the Maghreb.

Somebody who wrote Islamic sources had way to much imagination or they thought we would never reach the era of information.

[collybever]

This initially looked like a repeat (which sometimes can be a good thing, people forget), but Jay has brought in more material than before. Thanks Jay and Al Fadi. Is there evidence of piracy in the Red Sea back then? They could have used sites on the Arabian side, but probably would not be based there as enterprises due to the lack of resources to build ships and provision up. Jeddah is not a good natural location for a harbour though from what was related before, and pirates tend to use well hidden, but useful bays.