Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

Here is my episode with Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind

We discuss:
- Why scaling is an artform
- Adding search, planning, & AlphaZero type training atop LLMs
- Making sure rogue nations can't steal weights
- The right way to align superhuman AIs and do an intelligence explosion

Timestamps
0:00:00 Nature of intelligence
0:05:56 RL atop LLMs
0:16:31 Scaling and alignment
0:24:13 Timelines and intelligence explosion
0:28:42 Gemini training
0:35:30 Governance of superhuman AIs
0:40:42 Safety, open source, and security of weights
0:47:00 Multimodal and further progress
0:54:18 Inside Google DeepMind

[QuantPhilosopher]

It's really awesome to finally have a podcast host who is capable of asking the right questions and of of having access to the key people.

[DwarkeshPatel]

Hope you guys enjoy this interview with Demis. If you do, please share it! Helps a lot :). Thanks for watching 🙏

[byrnemeister]

This guy is just about the best interviewer of tech folks. Excellent questions. Some thought has been applied rather than sticking to what everyone else is asking.

[zaaath]

This is a great conversation! It would've been even better if Dwarkesh's speech were clearer. I think Dwarkesh optimizes for speed which at times makes it inaudible. In any case, I'm looking forward to more guests like Demis.

[akhil]

Its so great you do these interviews and ask intelligent questions that require non trivial answers

[forthehomies]

Huge. Looking forward to watching this after classes. Thanks.

[StrandedKnight]

You ask the best questions, Dwarkesh! Speaking from the perspective of someone who has worked in the field of AI for several years, I'm impressed by how well read you are on technical concepts.

[BrianMosleyUK]

Great episode Dwarkesh and some insightful questions throughout. Well done. Shared to Maven 🙏👍

[wdwuccnxcnh]

So excited for this. You're really an amazing interviewer. Ty ❤

[willlounsbery-scaife]

Excellent podcast. You ask such good questions, and it is clear that you put a lot of work and deep thought into preparing for these interviews.

[riazr]

Yo Papa Patel interviewing the heavy hitters. Much appreciated

[bazstraight]

20 minutes in "Grounding (in reality)", I had to pause: these are astute questions from Dwakesh and great replies from Demis.

[EnGmA]

Thanks for the Interview. Very much appreciate it!

[tlokffk]

I listened to this at .95 speed. The change might seem insignificant, but it was actually incredibly helpful in slowing down the high density stream of information just enough to be able to catch every word.

I highly reccomend anyone else struggling to keep up with the question-answer pace to do the same.

[agginswaggin]

Your channel is gold! I love your questions, and crazy how you can get all these big guys on here

[AtomicSlugg]

genuinely the best interviewer when it comes to tech/AI, excited to watch this, thank you!

[nicohillbrand]

Your podcast has become my new favourite, overtaking the 80k podcast. Really love the quality of your questions :)

[klarad]

I love Dwarkesh’s intelligent and pointed questions, it’s refreshing.

[ulychun]

Dwarkesh meets Demis ! Fantastic interview ! Every sentence is gold…❤

[khhqiwo]

Amazing background research by Dwarkesh, citing old research papers from Demis is great.