What If? The Battle of Dogger Bank

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A look at the greatest naval battles of the 20th century through the lens of alternative history.
History doesn't have a conditional tense. But that doesn't make it any less interesting to wonder "What if...?" In this new show, we imagine how famous naval battles might have developed under alternative circumstances.

Dogger Bank is a large sandbank in the North Sea about 100 kilometers off the coast of England. The sea depth here ranges from 15 to 36 meters. This area, rich in fish, became a battleground between the British and German Navies on January 24, 1915.
Even though our reconstruction doesn't take a huge range of real-battle parameters into account, at the very least, it has allowed us to compare the advantages and disadvantages of the tactics employed by the British and Germans.
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• What if Admiral Hipper had continued his attempts to save Blücher, despite the threat of the entire division being overwhelmed?
Find answers to these and other questions in our new video!

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Seriously WG and this channel should make videos like this more... i wouldnt mind if they put ads in it, its worth the watch

fmmchannel
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The problem that this video doesn't address is fire control. In real life, it's all optical, and you're spotting the fall of shot to make corrections for the next salvo. Massing fire from four ships on a single target means that it will be very difficult to tell which shells come from which ship, unless they set up a system of timing out the flight of shells from each salvo. The end result could possibly be much greater inaccuracy that cancels out the advantage of massed fire. I've even had this problem myself within the game, being unable to tell which shells are mine during a spot of heavy fire. For this reason, engagements in line of battle generally targeted their opposite number in the line, and only if the numbers were uneven would more than one ship fire on a single target.

SynchroScore
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Sorry but replacing HMS Zealand with HMS Indefatigable means that three of the most important items are now missing. Pelorus Jack, along with the Pui Pui and Tiki worn by Her captain. Failure to adorn these items would prove catastrophic in battle.

davewalker
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The SMS Blucher was not such a handicap for Hipper as many historians have advanced. Blucher's 8.2-inch rifles outranged the British 12-inch rifles, also her armor exceeded the British Battlecruiser armor. The very reason she absorbed so many hits from 4-battlecruisers, two light cruisers, and numerous destroyers without succumbing. Only five torpedo strikes coming from the destroyers and 1-light cruiser before Blucher turn turtle and sank.Blucher being an armored cruiser was not supposed to stand up and defeat a battlecruiser one to one. She withstood the heavy pounding and lasted longer than any of her attackers could have. Another issue not ever mentioned is the "firepower" of those 8.2-inch cannons. Blucher could put more salvoes down range than any of the battlecruisers. Granted the 8.2" shellwaq a lighter round, but salvo for salvo Blucher had no equal that day at Dogger Bank. She was ganged up on because of the superior British speed. Had just one of the older British battlecruisers engaged Blucher, the battle would have been different. Her armor kept her fighting when other armored cruiser designs would have been overcome quickly.

davidabney
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Would like to see SMS Blücher in the game.

hansheden
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I'm a legends player but I love watching these videos

dakotah_anderson
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what if world of warships was fun to play again

techytube
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Conclusion - World of Warships is an arcade game and not a naval combat simulator :-)!

tomriley
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2 Questions:

1. Why not introduce this and other historical scenarios in the game? (Would love to play this!!!!)

2. Why the hell use the WW2 German warflag (e.g.: 9:56) and not the Imperial one? This took place in 1915!!!

denovemportem
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Franz Hipper is a seriouly overlooked and underappreciated Admiral. Brave, smart, and competent.

stevie
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a what if with visuals are always a fun treat, hope this becomes a series.

leogazebo
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nice concept of using wows for what if scenarios. well done.
one point just for the looks: Bluecher is represented by "wrong" ship. Nassau as replacement would look better as the turret layout as most obvious feauture is same in Bluecher and Nassau, even if Bluecher had 21cm guns vs the Nassau 28cm guns.
adding the Bluecher as premium heavy cruiser - at tier 3? - would be great.
how about a "what if" on the carrier battles of ww2 where the carriers go for their own kind and the battle fleets never get in touch with each other. something i miss in wows as carriers are not primary target for each others in early battles.

edelmann
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So even here, German BBs are basically firewood.

shadowsaberXYZ
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Ah yes using World of Warships to try to recreate a historical event.

hulohyou
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This was pretty RAD..more like these guys!!!!

varsington
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This is awesome we need more of these and make it a full documentary.

pleblow
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Does this mean you're adding Blucher to the game... I mean I'd totally buy that premium ;)

Shinck
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Great video - the educational potential of this platform is profound. Shame there isn’t a genuine Blücher modelled for WoW, i.e. with a single aft turret but a pair of side turrets each side. No one disputes Blücher was an Armoured Cruiser in hindsight, but the Germans classified her as a Schlachtkreuzer (Battlecruiser) at the time. Or treated her as one. Certainly deployed her as one!

simonstock
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The German forces would have suffered the same problem as the British did at Jutland by concentrating fire. They would not have been able to distinguish shell splashes from their guns from those of the rest of the squadron. Therefore, it was not a realistic battle with tracers enabled.

Griz
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Fun video, I appreciate the effort that no doubt went into it. The setup and execution reminds me somewhat of the show Deadliest Warrior.

legoseller