Can a F2P get a C6 character? Let's look at the stats.

[_akeel]

So the question you just got to ask yourself, do you want many characters to play with or a dedicated character that you play with for the rest of your genshin play through.

[polyhedron]

I actually got the 5% guesstimate from an old gacha sim diagram someone posted on the subreddit.

it's called
Banner Probability Distributions (updated)


Carmen's video totaled 430 wishes, but they corrected themselves in the comments which I didn't initially see.
430 would have roughly matched top 5% of the diagram, which is how I got it.

Anyway, I've redone the math.

The actual correct number that carmen spent was 501 wishes, which after putting into hutaobot gacha calc, is about 9.13% odds of c6, still above average and pretty lucky imo. For reference, that's about the same odds as getting the _featured 5*_ in 30 pulls.

I also found that the average # of pulls for c6 (from the hutaobot gachacalc) was 656, not including starglitter.

I did some extra simple math to find the # of extra starglitter wishes per wish

(0.13*(2)+0.016*(10))/5

Expected value of starglitter per wish divided by the 5 starglitter required per wish (decent overestimate)

Assuming all 4* are dupes and/or weapons, all 5* are constellations,
it's 0.084 extra starglitter wishes.
Not amazing but could be a lot worse.

So since each wish is worth ~1.084 wishes, the 656 pull average for c6 is actually only worth about 606 pulls.

Personal opinion time:
*IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT TO C6 LEARN THE MATH AND ADJUST YOUR EXPECTATIONS ACCORDINGLY*
If you spend starglitter, 606 pulls is 50/50 odds of c6, but there's still a chance you get stuck at c5 and in the ABSOLUTE SUPER UNLUCKY WORST CASE (lose EVERY 50/50) you're stuck at c3.

Good thing is, if you're feeling lucky and want to gamble with ~1/3 odds instead of 1/2 you only need about 559 wishes if you spend the starglitter as well. And so on and so forth, for higher risk tolerance individuals.

TL;DR
Average c6 is ~606pulls if you use the glitter, learn the gacha odds before comitting to c6. I like simple math, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[chloebeny]

I feel like C6 limited 5 star is a very big commitment, for now I would rather go towards very good C1 and C2 and their weapons and then see from there which unit I like most and would give me the most at c6.
But to think that to this day, the one I want most at C6 is Kaeya... XD Definitely cheaper, but so much harder to get.
Could I get a C6 Shenhe before a C6 Kaeya? I have no Shenhe but a C2 Kaeya. Hmmmm I wonder...

[heetucola]

I'm doing this for Kokomi, except I'm getting her to c6 in the long run, I've decided every time Kokomi comes around, I'll get another copy of her, that way I'll have her c6 in a few years. I don't really mind waiting and skipping a few characters in between since I like her a lot and it's very unlikely that I'll find another character that accommodates my tastes as well as her, so I think it's a fair trade and I feel like she's worth it

[glistica]

Ah so you also watched that video?
They're one of my favorite channels, I really respect their dedication.

[CarmenDei_Venti]

😯Thanks for the math explanation! I always thought you need 600-800 wishes to get a C6 so I put my expectation very low. I thought I would get C4 or even C3 if I'm very unlucky and I ended up getting C6, so I was so surprised and I thought I was super lucky XD

[Eriienne]

Epic pulls and congrats to CarmenDei for getting C6 Venti!

[zeldaM]

If you have 7 constellations or copies of c0 limited characters( not aloy) then you can get c6 of a unit.

[crimsonram]

3x 5* c6 (21 successful banner pull) vs all the 5* c0 (22 at the moment).
I know that especially new heroes c6 is guaranteed nobrainer 36* abyss, so 3x c6 is stronger than 21-22 c0, no question.
Still, I would select all c0 for sure, for the variety

[okkymahardika]

75k primogems already enough for getting C6 *5

[Tiamorg]

Still, there is a tonn of luck involved.
My pitty avg is 71 and my 50/50 is lost every time. Idk, why, maybe my account is rigged, or just pure unluck. It's 71 pitty avg for 16 5star pulls in my account lifetime, 10 event and 6 permanent. From event banner, it's 5 featured, and 5 standard, so 50/50 is lost every time. 720 pulls for 5 featured 5stars. So a C6 is 7 copies, and it would be 1008 if i did my math right. Unlucky indeed. So the server avg is 62 right?. And if my case is 71, then someone's case is 53, so it averages to server's avg 62. And they won't lose every 50/50. I hate this. But w/e, i was never lucky in gacha games, so i'm used to it.

[comitells]

my no pull f2p account will soon reach 200 days old, and even that amount of time it's still not in the 180 pull count. if you factor in the amount of standard pulls ahh that's very dedicated to almost not pull for more then a year to get a character on a banner c6, and talk about the weapon banner goodluck

[zackmwiti]

Yet I go to 75-80 just to lose 50 50. Only won 2 and I have like 24 five stars including constellations. It's so unfair and one of the reasons I'm just considering quitting. Some of my friends have never lost a 50 50 and Im just here like😑