Russia Ukraine Conflict: Why are they lying to us?

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One of the problems with our post-1960s political and legacy media world is that it is postmodernist. That is, people believe they can invent a narrative and if find enough facts to build the narrative then it becomes the truth. No matter how nonsensical the narrative is, you can support it with made up facts and if enough people believe in it, if it comes true. Truth after all is relative.

So what I think is that half of the politicians and media thought that even though Russia was winning the war from day one, if they continued to implore people to believe the "Ukraine is winning" narrative that eventually it would become true. Other saner minds that were born prior to 1965, such as Joe Biden and most of our political class, actually do know the truth. I think George W Bush probably doesn't know the truth, but he also thinks that he rid the world of evildoers who hate our way of life because we love freedom.

They know that they can make people believe that Russia's goal is to conquer the world. They will take over Ukraine, Poland, Eastern Europe, and then the entire world will become part of Russia. Just like the Domino Theory. In the process, they will target civilians, gang rape pregnant women, and bomb kindergartens, theaters and hospitals every single day including holy days. Only instead of making us communist, we will have to worship Vladimir Putin, which is the very worst kind of person you can be.

But they really know that Russia's stated goal is not to occupy Ukraine, but for Ukraine to become a non-Nato, neutral country, and to liberate the Donbass region from rogue attacks by Nazi militias.

But they will never admit that because those demands sound very reasonable.

Even though our western officials knew we could not fight Russia directly, they believed that they could win the war economically. They thought they could crush the ruble and cause riots in the streets in Moscow. Or at least they hoped that was true. It's a very bad strategy to plan to win a war on the basis of what you hope your enemy will do. But just like Alexander Solzhenitsyn said, the West has never understood Russia. We see the world as America, Europe and then a lot of backward countries.

The West doesn't consider that there are actually people living in places like Africa and India and China, and that these people are advancing economically in the world to the point where they are our competitors. Rather, we like to think they are enemies to be kept down lower than us forever. There can be only one power.

Already we are seeing the media narrative shift from "Ukraine is winning the war," to "Things are starting to go badly in Ukraine," to "We need to inflict some losses on Russia and bring them to the bargaining table." Finally, they will give Putin everything he wants. But our press will say that this is a victory because "Putin wants to take over the world and we crushed his army and gave him just a few backwater swamp lands with bombed out cities that can never be repaired in the south and east of Ukraine that were always really part of Russia anyway. Hardly any Ukrainian wants to go there because those regions are frozen in the Soviet era."

They'll also roll out the caveat that "Biden saved us from a nuclear war with Russia." They will say, "There was a "secret plan to bomb London that only the Pentagon knew about" (even though it was talked about constantly on Russian television).

It's like the narrative that George W. Bush spun to the American public. In 2004, Putin tried to conquer Georgia and instead he failed because of a lot of disorganized Russian military blunders and just one American warship in the Mediterranean.

Meanwhile, Putin will have a lot of notoriety in the world, if not admiration, because he was able to stop NATO and make it irrelevant while also crushing the economic dominance of the euro and US dollarin the world.

Every civilization has its own version of history. It's like those Americans that think that Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone when we all know it was a little old lady from St. Petersburg.

[DanielOrfield]

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[aus]

I am Ukrainian, but live in Australia and have been following events in Ukraine since it become independent from the Soviet Union, where I grew up… so.. in couple of words, Russia was always treating Ukrainians as a “ half” people ridiculing Ukrainian traditions and language .. Russia put so much resources into propaganda that is scary! But the truth is it’s wants to eliminate Ukraine as a country as it believes in Russian supremacy … reminds you of something?