Classically Abby's Pronatalist Agenda

Hi all, today we're taking a look at how Classically Abby, sister of Ben Shapiro, is telling everyone 'if you're fertile, you must have kids' - we're going to be responding, fact checking and I've got loads of book recommendations for you :)

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[梦见]

I love how Abby assumes that everybody who doesn’t become a mother is just “traveling, partying, and living it up”, and not that the majority of us are working full-time jobs to just make a stable living. Really shows how out of touch she is…

[SAVYWRITESBOOKS]

imagine thinking DOLLY PARTON is selfish just because she doesn't have kids

[Wolf_Avatar]

When she says "Motherhood is what life is for." I can only imagine how damaging that is to someone who wants children but isn't capable.

[yuogi]

It's crazy how Abby can fat-shame women and then criticize them for being anxious about what their bodies look like in the same sentence.

[brinkcraven]

I have two adult children. I wouldn’t trade them for a billion bucks but those two pregnancies nearly killed me and effectively ruined my health for the rest of my life. I paid a HUGE price for my choices. Most people underestimate the risks associated with pregnancy. It makes me so angry.

[Notliketheothergorls]

I once heard a someone turn the phrase “every child is a blessing” around and said “but are you a blessing to that child?”. I am a parent, and I had to recognize that regardless of my own wants, I only have the finances and mental/emotional capacity for one child. Fundies have children regardless of whether than can give them a good life, and that’s SELFISH

[dontburstmybubble]

I don't know how people wake up and think its a good idea to force people who dont want kids to have kids.

[bigpapamagoo]

‘I don’t like the idea that motherhood is a choice’
Wow, almost like she doesn’t believe women should have autonomy and freedom. Almost like she wants women and our bodies to be controlled by others.
Also, I dare her to go to a foster home full of children whose parents couldn’t take care of them or maybe even didn’t want them and spout this bullshit.

[zweck]

Saying having children iss the right choice for everyone is insane.
Drowning in debt? Have a child!
Abusive Relationship? Have a child!
Homeless?Have a child! Suffering from terminal cancer? Have a child!

[palinurus]

Dolly Parton is a great positive example of a childfree person because of how much good she's done for *so many* children— her Imagination Library provides a free book a month to every child in Tennessee (and now in other states too). It greatly boosted the literacy rates in TN across socio-economic strata. She also provides a heck of a lot of funding for hospitals, both pediatric and not. She's childfree and also a positive influence in the lives of millions of kids.

[lely]

"i dont like that motherhood is a choice" is one of THE scariest statements ever made. sent chills down my spine

[NoKidsNoProblem]

"You don't want to be selfish do you?" Actually I do. I want to be selfish because my needs and wants are important to me.

[deathsbinky]

motherhood is so important to these conservatives until the kid is being raised by lesbians. it's the most amount of motherhood possible and I'd love to hear classically abby's thrillingly poor argument against it

[jd]

“You can’t describe how important another person’s life is until you have children….” Big yikes. I think this says more about Abby than anything. Did she really have no capacity for empathy prior to motherhood?? I feel intense empathy (at times to problematic degrees, yay therapy), and yet I have zero inclination to procreate. I truly see no correlation whatsoever.

[LadySiha]

As a mom, it just sounds like Abby is just trying to convince herself how wonderful being a mom is...

[arsenic]

"you can't describe what love feels until you're carrying your own child" does she not *love* her partner? Or parents, siblings, any other family?

[Tink]

That argument that "motherhood deserves more respect than other vocations" is WILD coming from a fundamentalist: a culture notorious for not supporting or respecting mothers' labor

[cottage-core_]

Calling child-free people selfish is so ridiculous when fundies want to have kids because god tells them to rather than because they actually want or are prepared for kids.

[dutchik]

There is no life without regret.

I'd much rather regret not having kids, than regretting having them

[jsanto]

She really does strike me as the kind of person who would blame her child for being sexually assaulted by their parent