Is THIS How Majora's Mask Was Made!? [ft. @BanditGames] (RYTM #4)

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Submission 2 - 03:37
Submission 3 - 06:29
Submission 4 - 09:33
Submission 5 - 11:52
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Outro - 17:34

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[HyruleGamer]

Favourite Theory/Mystery from this episode? 👀

[BanditGames]

Dude, your videos have just continued to get better over the years. My god. Great job on this one, thanks so much for having me on. And thank you to everyone who submitted their theories! So much fun <3

[literallywhy]

The interlopers don’t have to be the entire Sheikah or Gerudo races banished to the twilight realm. They could be specifically a group (made up of Sheikah, Gerudo, or both) that was banished and then the rest of them weren’t involved in the bad stuff that got the interlopers banished. The Sheikah have been around since the beginning of the timeline (in Skyward Sword, where Impa is from the past when Demise was first sealed). The Sheikah as a race ARE old enough to be the ancestors to the Twili, and it would fit nicely with BotW’s lore the Sheikah were prone to having disputes and splits throughout their history before the Yiga

[Insert_Bland_Name_Here]

If everyone in Hyrule has a counterpart in Termina, and we know that Majora's Mask appears to have some level of sentience, couldn't it be possible that Majora's Mask IS Termina's version of the Fused Shadow? They have similar backstories, similar powers, similar freaky eye-designs on the front... Of course, the only problem with this is that the Happy Mask Salesman had Majora's Mask in Hyrule when it was stolen by the Skull Kid, but theoretically, it is still possible that he had already been to Termina once and obtained it there, as he never explicitly states where he got it in the first place... Just throwing out what's probably an outrageous theory here...

[Zeldafan]

I love it when you guys both collab theories. It always makes my day.

[sykune]

The dark interlopers were just a group people who mastered a certain kind of magic at least as far as true japanese translations go so it could have been a group of sheikah and gerudo that created the fused shadows. And only those responsible were banished to the twilight realm and became the twilight. It would explain both symbols being present.

[golisopod]

I always thought that the Mogmas left Hyrule and eventually became the Subrosians from oracle of seasons (another race that lives underground near lava). We never see them under their robes so for all we know they could also be mole people

[verdantmistral]

For the Divine Prank, we know that Link has part of the Triforce in the very end of OoT which is barely visible when he relives the scene of meeting Zelda. This suggests the Triforce must have split already. It was less of a prank of the gods (though from the Sages perspective it would seem so) and more the Triforce's normal defense mechanism at play. It was likely that Ganondorf just didn't know he had it and activated its power through desperation.

This next part is just me being crazy, but we don't know how resetting Link's time with the ocarina works... it's not like playing the ocarina can return Link to a set point in time and allow him to keep in possession items that he hasn't recieved yet... unless it works like it does in MM. Also it may be possible that the Triforce is... not bound by a normal concept of time or the OoT isn't powerful enough to effect the Triforce. For example, even though time rewinds, the Triforce doesn't "rewind" with them, it continues forward backwards. That is the Triforce stays with the chosen while they are rewound, but the Triforce itself doesn't come back together it stays apart bound to chosen. The Triforce experiences the rewind the same way Link does. Though the Triforce seems to continue to exist in future for the same reason. The OoT can't actually send the Triforce through time so it also remains. Trying to apply the laws of time to the Triforce might just be impossible because of its divine nature. (Which might be why the timeline is tough to unravel. We try to apply logic and laws to things that might be above those laws.)

[willarasmith]

Theory-
The entierty of BOTW’s story during the game is told from Kass’ perspective. It’s not immediately evident right away but soon becomes quite clear during the DLC. This would explain the story being so fragmented, because it is told through song and from memory by Kass. And legends throughout history are often told through song or poem. Kass was around for BOTW so he would be able to recount the events and insert himself into certain parts of the story. I think it would be interesting to delve into this. Maybe some of the story points would make a little more sense if looked at from Kass’ perspective. It would also be interesting to delve into who his teacher was.

[xaxmXII]

My theory about the divine prank is that the Triforce transcends time. Ganondorf got the Triforce of Power like normal, but then despite the time manipulation, he still had it. He wasn't aware he had it up until the execution which is where it kicked in and saved him. This would also explain how Link, Zelda, and their descendents have their pieces despite the Door of Time having never been opened in the timeline where Link was sent back to his childhood. I would absolutely love to hear your thoughts on my theory!

[QuasarEE]

The name "dark interlopers" has always felt like a hint to me that skews in favor of a connection. Interloper can be defined as "One that intrudes in a place, situation, or activity." If the interlopers came from Termina, their name is evident as they don't belong in Hyrule in the first place, attempting to take control of its Golden Power. This also connects really nicely to the Triforce symbols that are found in Ikana, which show that some tribe that lived in Termina did indeed have knowledge of it - the same one, seemingly, that created a statue of Majora in the Stone Tower Temple, and opened a gateway to a dimension seemingly linked to the demon inside that temple.

[OmoiSenpai]

The Gerudo mark on Zant is because Ganondorf played a god figure to him. I don't think the gerudo's got anything to do with the people of the twilight realm until Ganondorf came through.
As far as the sheikas being involved with the Twilight & Majora's Mask. I feel like that part is true.
We've seen the sheikah's going evil before, like with BOTW.

Who'se to say that these "interlopers" wouldn't be a select handful of corrupted sheikah that wanted to dominate the sacred realm using the Fused Shadow, a creation from a type of dark magic that they shouldn't have been digging into, and because of that, they got banished to a different realm for being taken in by the "Dark Magic."

As far as Majora's mask being made before the fused shadow & Interlopers. I feel like that part is true.

My thought is that the being "Majora" who'se had beef with the fierce deity was perhaps the beginning of the whole sheikah-to-interloper fiasco as a way to try to get a 1-up over the Goddesses behind the scenes. To have itself turned into a mask, I feel like it was in agreement with an association to Demise (or one of his henchmen, like perhaps one that disguises itself as the Masked Salesman) This way, Majora can be hidden, and corrupt the sheikah race ( one of Demise's enemies being that they were the guardians for Hylia herself. )

We already know that the sheikah are the best at creating technology, so perhaps the corrupted sheikah-turned-interlopers developed the fused shadow with the inspiration of Majora's mask to take control over the sacred realm. But once they failed, and the goddesses intervened, the mask was taken away from them to be hidden around the world (in the hands of the masked salesman) so that's why over the years, the people of twili aren't all that evil.

It could also make sense as to why the goddesses ordered the three light spirits to seal away the magic, rather than straight up killing them. Then again, I don't think they've ever killed anything now that I think about it, but because despite being interlopers, they're still the Goddesses guardians.

But of course, it's just the beauty and mystery of LOZ. Just like how there is a upside-down triforce on the eyebrows of Majora's Mask.

[paulpower]

Here’s a minor mystery for you I haven’t seen anywhere else as far as I know.

If you go a little northwest from the Spring of Power in BotW, you’ll find a slope leading up Death Mountain with a surprising amount of enemies, namely Lizalfos and Fire Chuchus. Get to the top and the slope becomes a series of cliffs with some Pebblits on the ledges. Halfway up, you’ll find a ruined stone structure with ruined walls and stairs leading up to a platform.

I was curious about it for a while since it looked like a lookout spot. But looking out for what? If you look out the window to the right, you can make out island on Lake Akkala and the roads leading to the Citadel but not the Citadel itself since it’s blocked by Death Mountain. If you look dead ahead out of the window on the opposite side of the stairs, you can see the East Akkala Stable, the Akkala Ancient Tech Lab and the roads between them. One thing to note, is that if you look at Death Mountain from the Akkala Ancient Tech Lab, it’s just about impossible to spot this structure.

Now go further up the mountain. Here’s a building with the layout of the soldier garrisons and outposts we see, mostly ruined, with hardened lava having rushed in through broken sections of the walls.

Here’s the question. Why is there a lookout and garrison that can’t be spotted in this little hidden spot on the mountain? It can’t be to monitor Death Mountain. You’d pick a safer spot. To keep an eye on any soldiers marching from Akkala Citadel? Maybe, but why only when they’re marching north and not the citadel itself?

Given that you can spot the Tech Lab but you can’t see either the lookout or garrison from the Tech Lab, I think it’s possible that the royal family was keeping an eye on the lighthouse.

We don’t know who operated it before Robbie did, but maybe it was more Sheikah. And given how far away it is from central hyrule, maybe they feared the Sheikah were covertly operating behind the royals backs, thus leading to spies being placed on Death Mountain to keep a faraway eye on things. I can’t imagine they were there for protecting the lighthouse, given they’d have to descend the volcano and cross the Akkala valley and again, the citadel is just down the road.

Even the idea they might have been watching for invaders by sea falls a bit short in my mind given how obscured the sea is by Tumlea Heights and Death Mountain.

[MSFVIDS]

I believe the happy mask salesman is very deceiving in what he says and who he claims to be. I think he has some dark secrets and something to do with the majoras mask that we don’t know about.

[chubbsthestuntmonkey]

We've talked about this a little bit, but I want to know, what did Mido *actually* do in the fallen timeline to get a town named after him?

[alphacypriot]

Nell is a ghost. The lantern, which is associated with ghosts throughout the series, is GIVEAWAY!

[ModelsAtWar]

I think the Mogma evolved into the Subrosians.
The mogma were quoted to love staying down in their lair all day and relaxing. I think they were supposed to help subdue ganon but instead faked their own deaths somehow (or just simply hid their identities) and stayed underground out of guilt and survival. And the Subrosians also live in an underground lair. And are very secretive about their identities.

[hiddendesire]

2:37 I thought they specifically took that appearance for Link to feel like one of them?

[Godongo]

Imagine fighting calamity Ganon over and over for 100 year without a single game over (death).

No wonder Zelda was really wanting link to hurry up

[Substitute_Zero]

Yellow fur, orange noses, blue mask-like markings around their eyes, tendency to dig and pop out of holes in the dirt, affinity for stealing things... to me it's always been a mini theory that the Mogma became Minish Cap's AcroBandits at some point in their evolution