Elon Says Model Y's structural battery pack is 'far from optimized'

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Elon Says Model Y's structural battery pack is 'far from optimized'

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Keep spreading your optimism Sam. I am very thankful for your content. Love you are based in Melbourne, I lived in Kreuzberg, Berlin and when we visited Fitzroy could not believe how similar these two districts were. The cafes, vegan burgers, yoga studios, art galleries. We will definitely come again to Australia and hope we can get in touch one day. I’ll buy you a Tallie mate ;)
ps: I work for a company that produces BEV

rendezone
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Thanks!
Great report Viking!
Say brother, when do you think the Model 3 will come with Front and Rear castings and 4680 Structural Battery Packs?

We love our Model Y but thinking we also need a Model 3 for around town travel.

Cheers,
Eric

erickessler
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Probably will be. It is a rare engineering product that can’t be improved on.

Ibh
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"Constant Improvement" - that's the slogan of Industrial Engineers
Sadly most US car manufacturers don't believe in it and keep all improvements until the model is 5 years old and then add a few of the improvements to the upgrade.

Tesla does it constantly and the reason Ford and GM will never catch Tesla and eventually go bankrupt.

noleftturns
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The problem with Musk is that he can’t stop himself from saying everything in his head. Of course, by saying that this system is not yet 100% optimized, the idiots and haters will still imply and let everyone know that the pack is not efficient enough, which is obviously not the reality. Hell of Elon, but that’s why we love him, too. 😀

jbnitpou
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Elon is just being totally honest - Elon will never give up improving !💪

LJ-jqog
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We know
1. It is 68 kwh at 100%. This has been measured while charging the car
2. Regen still works at 100%, again reported by owners. So suspicion is that the pack is being limited to 68 kwh

What we don't know is how many cells in the pack. Waiting for Sandy Munro to tell us. They suspect it is 880.

What we don't know is how many cells are there

jimjsmith
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Surely you use prismatic cells the pack utilisation will be much better. The issue is that no-one can make decent prismatic cells. I expect that BYD Blade should be better. The issue is that LFP is not that energy dens

LatutaEV
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In my businesses, I changed whatever I could to improve my image, give greater satisfaction. Selling some ten services a day, after a year of develop my close rate went to 100%. My confidence was in my voice.

markrowland
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I think people with a Tesla model Y structural battery pack already has 1000km EV which has been limited by software that will be made accessible by several over the air updates.
It's my believe that Tesla is software limiting its model Y structural battery packs by about 50%.
I think Tesla is holding its cards very close to its chest waiting to see what the competition are able to achieve.

tonybliss
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I would believe that because they are sandbagging because those batteries are lighter with more capacity. Those cars could go 400+ miles if optimally packed. Also battery swap could be easier.

pgiatrakis
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In Welsh there is a proverb 'nid da lle gellir gwell' which translates as 'not good where it can be improved'. Tesla never sits stull!

eclecticcyclist
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Like Sam said before, Tesla can not simply make this version better than 2170 version. No one would want the lesser 2170 version so prices would have to change to reflect this. Maybe later when all US Y's are 4680 they will be upgraded over the air?

v
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Must keep watching the VIKING idk why?

mebran
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Well of course, CATL would rather make yellow boxes of pouches!
Or if they made the 4680 cells hexagonal, allowing denser packing.

lyfandeth
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Atari : Video games are Far from optimized

truecolors
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So what are we thinking this is locked at 68 kWh and the range is locked and they will just open it up and add another 40-50 miles. Or are we thinking it’s a 90kWh made to appear like a 68 kWh 🤷🏼‍♂️

SWR
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"Some of these companies are innovating so quickly.... They see Tesla do something...They do it"

Lets just say you meat to say "COPY" !!

skipsg
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Could Musky be eluding to a future MORE powerful battery ? For some guys, the sky's the limit !

jimanderson
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Who's to say that the new CATL batteries won't put the "Chemical recipe" in the 4680 cell pack?

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