Archaeological Oddities: Samson's Tribe of Dan (Z15G) by Seth Fleishman / World History by a Jew™

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World History by a Jew ™ - Archaeological Oddities: Tel Dan and Tel Qasile - Z15G by Seth Fleishman

Archaeology in Israel ... Tel Dan and Tel Qasile! This lecture is the 14th part of our "Bronze Age Collapse" series and 7th part of our "Samson Mysteries" mini-series. This lecture is an archaeological investigation of Samson and the origins of his tribe: the Tribe of Dan. Both the story of Samson and the background of the Danites do not fit neatly into the normal biblical tradition, and this can be proven by examining the two most famous sites associated with this Israelite tribe: Tel Dan and Tel Qasile, where those archaeological oddities are on display. If you haven't seen it, I recommended my previous lecture (#Z15F) on the biblical oddities of Samson and his tribe.

This lecture is in memory of Hershel Shanks a''h, who passed away last month.

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Thank you for this interesting lecture. It occurred to me that the Aegean-style temple in Tel Dan may have been so small because it was built by a minority who didn't want to change their religious practices. There are always conservative people, in any group.

OldieBugger
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Earned my subscription, for sure. I have always suspected that the Bible accurately reflected ancient history to a great degree and I have also questioned the legends around the tribe of Dan. I think I am the only person I know on a personal level that has read the Old Testament more than five times all the way through, so it's nice to learn from people who have probably read it even more than me. Very informative! Great work!

megatondiplomat
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going through your series a second time. amazing both times - so much to learn.

NormBoyle
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I love your videos, I watch them all the time. You’re better than any professor I listed to in college. God Bless 👍 🇮🇱

YahwehChannel
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Always fantastic! Thank you, you really help me to stitch the narrative together. This makes too much sense.

annpenso
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amayzing work Seth, I'm starting to think about a show to tell this story from the perspective of Genetics and biblical mythology and maybe it will match up witht he archeology as well.
basically you have three paternal markers that having all three in a population in significant amount indicates Levant origins. You have E1b1 which is associated with the Netufians, J1 which is accosiated with Jews and Arabs, 50% of Cohanim, 70% of Bedouin, predominant in Arabia as well as Levant populations in general. This is the most common ancestry found among Canaanite era samples thus far sequenced, we could call this the family of Abraham in a sense, originates in the Caucuses/Armenian Highlands and seems to show up around 4000 years ago. Then you have J2, which is also from the same regions as J1 originally, but found a lot in Mycenean Greeks as well as modern Jews, Lebanese and other Levant Populations. We see Aegean ancestry show up in the region in both Philistia and in Phoenicia around 3200 years ago, there is no reason to think that if they mixed with the Phoenicians and the Canaanites who are living in Philistia, there is no reason that those Aegeans who are living in what later becomes part of Israel that they didn't also absorb these Aegeans into the Israelites, and this admixture seems relatively significant, particularly in Jewish people today. If this is the case with Dan I think there is reason to suspect that this is also the case with the Shardana and Tjeker also being absorbed at least in part to the Israelites, either as full tribes or just being absorbed into Israelite tribes. I also think there are more hints of sea people lore finding it's way into the biblical stories, such as a battle in the sea with the Egyptians, captivity in Egypt proper and a very grandiose conquest story and the idea that the boundaries of Israel somehow extend in some places much farther north than what we think of as Israel throughout most of the text. If you want to collaborate and find other archeological and extra biblical textual sources to help test this theory of significant ancient Aegean admixture into the Israelites, that would be really cool.

rafigassel
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FANTASTIC !!! THIS SERIOUS ARCHOLOGICAL GILD!!! IM IMPRESSED.
GOD PRESERVES HIS PRIOF ... ITS ALL THERE!!! BLESSINGS FOR YOU, THE ISRAELI PEOPLE, JERUSALEN AND THE WHOLE OF THE LAND.
MAY GOD PROTECT AND BLESS YOU ALL.
MAY YOU ALL DWELL IN GODS SAFE SECRET PLACE.
PEACE BE WITH YOU ALL.
THANK YOU TO GOD AND YOU FOR MUCH EDUCATION.
I WANNA KNOW IT ALL.😊😊😊

hlxuczf
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Wonderfully stimulating, from a thoughtful investigator. TY

lesliesylvan
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I would like to see a video on the descendants of Javan: Elisha, Dodanim, Kittim and Tarshish. These were the original Mediterranean "Greek" sea people (excluding the L of Tiras Thracians) which had the paternal Y chromosome haplogroup of T and later became a significant part of the Phoenicians which basically consisted of the Y chromosomes of R1b of Riphath, T of Javan, G of Assyrians, Q of the Medes, I1 of *Dan, * I2 of Asher, J1 of Abraham, J2 of Judah, E of the Egyptians and B of Cush (possibly Canaan). I am of *Dan* I1.

JungleJargon
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Thanks for your great lesson. I'll be sharing this.

MTB
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Nice anecdote: my former landlady was the excavator who found 2 of the 3 parts of the Tel-Dan stella

henkisos
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New to your channel. Love it and sharing it.
That said...

Let's not forget they were under Philistine rule. This was a long occupation. That's why his parents feared him making an enemy of them and said you are making us obnoxious to them. That's why his countryman turned him over.
Looks like they mixed their religion with the philistines before they migrated north.
As for wanting a Levite, everyone wanted a holy man.

Again love your work. God bless you.

margielafferty
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Seth, interesting lectures as always. How do you think Danites had so many greco/philistine culture/traditions? Do you think the tribe of Dan absorbed (or joined themselves) local philistines? Did the Israelites convert/absorb a group of people that brought their pre-existing culture with them? Are you suggesting the person Dan (from Jacob/Bilhah) is a later invention to explain the Danite people?

jeffreysmith
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Hi Seth, back again after a couple years :) hope you are doing fine!
I want to tell you some thing about Dan***s, however we want to call them, that I just stumbled upon.
It has to do with the heraclyds myth. Heracles was a descent of Danaos (that’s why we are here), 9th generation if I am not wrong; when he died, his descendants had to leave greece, chased by a guy named Eurystheus. Which the legend tells us he is a Dan***, but also son of Nikippe, daughter of Pelop. Pelop is also Agamemnon’s grandfather. Keep this in mind.
So, the death of Heracles had to happen some decade before the trojan war, as we know that Heracles Slaughtered king Priam’s family, before placing Priam himself on the throne as a loyal ruler of Troy. So that, we have that before the death of heracles Troy was Dan-affiliated. Then Heracles dies, and his descents according to the legend, is oppressed by Erystheus, who is related to the Pelops and therefore to Agamemnon, and have to leave greece... just before some greeks, ruled by Agamemnon, besiege and destroy King Priam’s Troy.
Can you see the picture? The trojan war was actually a civil war between descents of Danaos and Pelop, and the civil war hypothesis is now very well supported even outside the myth.
Then the myth tells us that people fled from troy to the western mediterranean, settled and created new empires. But just few decades after the trojan war we have the sea peoples, included the Tjeker (Teucrians, people from Troy) and the Tursha (which is supposed to be people from the Italian thyrrenic coast, which is not strangely the place where Aeneas settled after the fall of Troy), together with the Danyens, the SharDANa (here Dan comes again?).

a bit of chronology.
around 1330-20 cataclysm followed by hercules-laomedontes war - Transition from troy 6h to 7a
1320- 1304 king priam’s troy 7a
1304-1294 trojan war - transition from 7a to 7b
1294- around 1200 Achean troy Troy 7b1
Around 1200 sea people invasion begin troy 7b2 (evident cultural shift)

The approximate year of the End of Troy 6H was determined according to hittite texts talking about cataclism in the area.
Following this assumption, the rest of the chronology is based on a carved text in a sardinian church that reports the came to Sardinia of Hyolaus and the heraclydes in the year 2769, as well as the came of Aeneas with some Trojans in the year 2785 (wierd calendar uhu?! if late 2700 is end of bronze age, year 0 would be around 4050 bc which is around the begin of egypt first dinasty, I believe - Dan from Egypt :D ).

Let me get back to Sardinia just quickly: modern Sardinia dialects are proven to hold ancient egyptian and sumerian roots. A lot of modern words That we think derived from latin or greek don’t have an intrinsic meaning in latin or greek, while they do in the various Sardinian dialects. This would make Sardic/Sardinian a root language for all the western modern languages. There was most likely a greater Sardinian influence in the mediterranean that is slowly been re-discovered. The western mediterranean of those times is considered under-developed, but there is a lot under the carpet I guess.
I wish this was interesting for you! Let me know if you did hear about the heraclyds myth and what you think!

barbojohnsung
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Seth, at 45 minutes you speak of similarity between the temples. It reminds me of a temple recently found in Jerusalem that was attributed to the high priest Melchizadek.

johncope
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I"m happy for the notice you got rid of that corona.

charachoppel
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Philistine is from Pelasgians from the Agean sea. It means pelican, like Thoth, who togheter with Ptah, who is Cronos/Hephaestus ✡️, who is the Master mason who commanded Gnomes, like Bas, to build megalithic structures. The Pelasgians were also called Atlantioi.

RealUvane
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Tribe of Dan left it’s mark everywhere

kingalpha
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wonderful lecture Seth as always. We enjoy your walk through the past and all the interesting connections. question do you think that the tribe of Dan is connected to the Dannion Sea Peoples? it looks like its a possibility,

devarabergen
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hestia "εστια" was a part of the 12 gods of olympus godess of hearth and home (nevermind I saw you mentioned the goddess further on the vid)

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