How it works: NEW Pinion E-Drive Motor and Gearbox drive unit

Shining like a diamond in a goats arse. Stands out from the usual bike industry crap engineering.

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[robinireland]

Counting the weeks/days/hours until my Pinion MGU equipped Simplon Rapcon arrives.
Love the new tech.

[feedbackzaloop]

This is what happens when automotive engineers make bike equipment. Can't say Pinion ever impressed me, but there is plenty of respect for things just done right.

[Rabrand]

Thanks for taking a look at it. Really cool that pinion is listening to what customers really want. That's a big middlefinger to all chaindirve manufacturers.

[MichaelMachado]

Excited to hear the full PowerPoint presentation on this

[pmcmpc]

Maybe once they've finished designing all this stuff, they could design some better traditional mech driven road / gravel gruppos at reasonable prices too. Given the amount of R&D that goes into their products, and production costs, their existing gearbox products are incredible value by bike industry standards. I should think one of their top of the range non-E gearboxes costs at least 5x as much to produce as Campag's entire new SR gruppo - which is retailing well north of 5000 euros - 6000 if you want the PM version.

[reginaldscot]

Robot gearboxes you say? I spent 5 years working with Panasonic robots (mostly heavy industry) and it was (often) a lot of fun. Be interesting to hear your experiences. 🙂

Hambini has “beef” with someone you say? Call me incredulous but I find that very hard to believe. 😁

[williambarker]

I love these videos, like the old saddle commentaries too

[realmagnetics]

Need more commentary about the motor. Are the magnets surface mounted or imbedded in the laminations. What motor control are they using 6 step commutation or FOC. Are they using hall sensors for position feedback or encoder/resolver. Magnet grade, Steel lamination type...etc

[muzzarobbo]

would love to see some more details with the IntraDrive gearbox motor unit, its motor seems more advanced and probably has a simpler gearbox setup inside. From first ride vids of the pinion it seems to have two clunky shifts throughout the 12 speeds, maybe a 3x4 kind of setup inside?

[arto]

beautiful build, how much would it cost some basic bike with belt drive? Maybe too much for poor...

[goncalofiliperibeiro]

That looks as large as a traditional mid drive motor. What gives, then? Why would a mid-drive need to be so large (in comparison)? Beefier motor?

Revolutionary, we can only hope that the consumer speaks with their wallet and demands more of this.

[dvoob]

really really cool. Did they have any in-bike model units you could test? I'm curious how much better the shifting under load is on this unit compared to the P & C series gearboxes. Does the electric assist play into the fact that you can shift under load, or could the same shifting be applied to a non assist gearbox?

[Akya]

Okay, but when can we get one that holds a five or ten kW motor?

[logtothebase]

Does the Motor drive assist in input shaft or the output?

[rosomak]

The toy motor over there is of course the peak of reliability and well determined extremely long service live. Go buy and throw away after 2 years of usage.

[TheGotoGeek]

If I’m understanding this correctly, the motor is after the gear box, so it’s more like a hub drive than a mid-drive?

[brabius]

If the battery goes down, can you easily pedal this thing?

[anywhereroam]

0:07 Can the torque and speed sensor be used as a power meter?

[TomCrockett-blgp]

IDK but that looks like about the trade of an ounce of gold.