Native Legend or Historical Event?

This month I received...

0:00 – Introduction
4:00 – History of the Choctaw
9:12 – The Story
23:31 – Analysis
29:46 – Credit & After Action

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[Tsiri]

This is part of my heritage. I'm part Choctaw. Proud of it, too. We lived in Oregon on the edge of a forest. I rode a mustang horse I adopted in Nevada. He was afraid of nothing; we'd seen mountain lions in the desert and bears in the forest- no reaction. We were looking for a camping site on a long ride when he began to react to something. His eyes rolled, his muscles went tight- he was terrified. I looked around, trying my best to see what was scaring him. I didn't see whatever it was. A LARGE rock sailed past my head- now I was scared. I still thought it was high school jerks, but quickly changed my mind when the sound of a large tree branch broke the silence. Then I noticed there was no sound- that branch sounded like it was being torn off the tree and it was sent sailing towards us. A stench that to this day filled the air and I turned my horse and we left at full speed. I didn't turn around- there WAS something pursuing us. Look, it wasn't a bear- bears don't throw rocks the size of cantaloupes or tree branches. Bears smell very different. I heard hoots and howls and what sounded like growls behind us. I NEVER went back. Months later, I talked to a Forest Ranger- he said simply, "so they've come down this far have they?" My blood ran cold- he knew what I was talking about. All he said was not to go back into that area and soon there was a bulletin on local news that the area had a "killer bear" and it would be handled. I didn't see it but I KNOW they're there.

[Jeffrey_k]

Choctaw army vet here from Haskell county, stones throw away from leflore county line. We have many bigfoot tales and signs here in Oklahoma, especially up in the Ouachita mountains and Kiamichi, in a town called Talihina. Thats the halfway point of our nation. Ive seen some things in the Talimena area..

[hatfieldmccoy]

Semper Fi Brother, I am mixed Eastern Band Cherokee and an enroller member of the Mississippi Band of Choctaw and Scotts Irish. I have heard this story before from my papaw. I have had an experience night hunting coyotes. I did multiple deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan as an Infantry Rifleman, so I have some issues with sleep at night so I spend alot of nights running the woods and hunting at night. I have run into black bear, bobcats, mountain lions, but this night I was up on a hill over looking a field that hadn't been planted yet, still to early of spring to plant that field butts up s thick woods with a creek that ran through it. I did some rabbit cries calls and started scanning the tree line with the red light on top of my rifle scope looking for eyes to pop up in the tree line. This night I just heard what sounded like trees getting broke over not just branches breaking but actual trees pushed over it was getting closer and I was expecting to see a pregnant doe to pop out of the tree line but what I saw as as I scanned back down that tree line was huge shoulders and moving quick my scope was just full of a big dark furry things and moving fast. I was in shock trying to understand what I was seeing. I knew immediately it was no bear because the muscle tone was to clear and to human like to second guess. Before he took off back into the tree line I was saw these huge shoulders through my scope and I remember his shoulders were just over top of this knot on a tree so I could go back to measure for reference. I went back the next morning trying to make sense of what I saw and this things shoulders were at least 94 inches. 7 foot 10 inches. I know what I saw, and let me tell you, I used to night hunt or fish every night alone and not think a thing about it. Since this happened I have been out night hunting but twice and both those were with a group of at 5 or 6 Buddies with us. I don't tell many people be I am known to be pretty good in the woods and I help people teach wounded deer or help guide deer hunts and don't want to ruin my reputation as a hunter and tracker. But I know what I saw and I wish I would not have

[notmyworld]

I know a young Native American man who pastors a church in Talihina OK, on the Choctaw reservation. I was visiting there one weekend and asked him about Bigfoot in the area. His response was, "Wayne, you would be hard-pressed to find anyone around here who has not either seen one, or knows someone who has seen one." He was quite serious.

[ianswinford]

Here’s an idea for a video: the Giants of Lovelock Cave. Stories tell of local Native Americans going to war against a race of vicious cannibalistic giants that lived in nearby caves. This would be a perfect video on your channel, bro!

[VNV]

My Great Great Grandmother was a full blooded Choctaw. When I was about 6 years old she spoke of this but I can't remember what she called it. She knew the English language but would speak broken English. She told that her older sister by 17 years lost 2 of her children to this Big Hairy Man as she called it. She would speak of her lost family from time to time.
I just wish I could speak with her today to dig into her story.

[Uh-Cool-Luh]

My grandfather Walter Amos, full blood choctaw and WW2 vet, raised me most of my life in McAlester Oklahoma where i still live, he passed away two years ago, he was 96...my middle name is in choctaw its "Akallo Poloma" it translates to "strong bow" pronounced (Uh-cool-luh Puh-loma) proud of my chata heritage and my name, i will give my children choctaw names when i have them one day...also loved the video and thank you for showing natives the spotlight

[williambaize]

I am of Cherokee descent and spent time with a Choctaw elder when growing up. This story is of a war with the Gugwe not the Shampe as the Choctaw called the Bigfoot. The story correctly told is the evil Gugwe which means face eater had attacked the Choctaw and they found a slaughter field just like here, but couldn't defeat the Gugwe. So their elders told the younger warriors to kill a Shampe and bring it's body to the slaughter ground of the Gugwe. The warriors were able to do this and were chased by the Shampe until they reached the slaughter ground they dropped the body and the Shampe and Gugwe fought and the Shampe defeated the Gugwe. They did this because they said the Shampe kept them safe from the Gugwe in times past. So they provoked the Shampe into a battle with the Gugwe and achieved success.

[jerrykwarner]

My grandfather was born, in 1897 on the Choctaw Nation Indian territory. He told me this story around the time the Patterson- Gimbal film came out. I was raised in the Pacific Northwest, graduating high school and college with a Forestry Major and Geology Minor. Ask anyone who spent a lot of time in the woods about 75% will have a story to tell about tree knocks, whistles, howls, and the stence. If they trust you, they will relate their experience. Although, the actual percentage is much higher. Most of these don't like to think about it, much less talk about it. They are real and extremely elusive.

[clintm]

I'm a member of the Choctaw tribe and a US Army Veteran. Just FWI, the current " seat " of the Choctaw Nation is in Durant Oklahoma in Bryan county.

[colcommissar]

I'm a member of the Chickasaw tribe but I'm also part Choctaw on my father's side. The two tribes are pretty close to each other in Oklahoma. It's great to hear these stories.

[Crazycoyote-weey]

Im Navajo and one time i heard a story from an old Salish man he told me a long time ago

That his tribe get into a war with Stone Giants

They were men not animals that covered themselves in clay that clay would harden so no arrow or spear would penetrate their skin

They were Cannibalistic and killing people

The old salish told me they had to burn the forest down to kill those things

[letsdothis]

I live in a town valled Greenwood, in Leflore County, MS
Greenwood Leflore was my great great great grandfathers arch enemy. Lol
Greenwood wanted the Choctaws to be more white, and Mushulatubee was the last full blood chief in MS at the time of removal.
Mushulatubbee gets a bad wrap in history, but he very much wanted to continue the traditional ways.
Greenwood Leflore stayed at his massive mansion called Malmaison (his dad was french).
Mushulartubbee led his people to Oklahoma on the trail of tears.

[DavidSpaugh]

I'm proud to be Choctaw, and this video is so well done. Big fan and follower for a while. Thank you, and God bless you, brother!

[SouthrnFlow]

I’m from Talihina. We’re over the mountain from poteau. My mom lives in Tuskahoma (pushmataha county) about 5 miles from The Choctaw Museum (the real capitol). I heard of these stories all my life and I’m a believer. I’ve experienced some unexplained phenomenons in the Honobia mountains (south of talihina) myself. A bigfoot festival is held there every year. Something or things are in them hills. Some relatives of mine have a story, years ago a little girl was in her room at night. She screamed in terror, her father ran in and asked what was wrong. She said somebody was looking in my window so he said draw me a picture of what that somebody looked like. He looked at the picture and grab his gun, he went outside. He shot it, the next day he went to where he shot but it was gone. A trucker was driving that night and he locked up his brakes, he said he seen two creatures (Bigfoots) carrying one that looked dead across the road. That turned out to be the one the father had shot.

[TheDukeOfDallas]

Makes me think of the Man-Eating giants/big foot of Lovelock Cave. They were massive, red-headed, viciously warlike, monsters that preyed upon the tribes and peoples of the area. After suffering under their constant murderous raids, the tribe(s) put together a huge war-party and pursued the monsters to this cave where the giants incorrectly thought they could evade and hide inside the cave long enough until the war-party would just give up and leave. Instead, the fed-up warriors blockaded the entrance so that there would be no chance of the monsters escaping, stacked large amounts of burnable fuel that would create massive amounts of thick smoke around the former entrance. Upon lighting this they sat down and waited as they listened to the monstrous wheezing and coughing from inside loudly begin, and patiently they kept their vigils until the last horrible gasp for air turned into a death rattle that signaled their reign of terror finally coming to its end.

[donaldliverance]

Bud I gotta say me and my family wait for these like it's Disney in the 90's... thank you for posting

[sharonwhiteley]

My BFF from 1st grade to HS graduation, was half Cherokee. She spent every summer and major holidays with her Dad in NC. She was extremely proud of her heritage. She always told me that her Dad and other family members, would warn her about where she walked, especially around dusk. She was adamant of "something the elders warned about but wouldn't discuss ".
She unfortunately passed away following graduation. I am almost 70 yo and still remember her stories after her time with the Cherokee.
May she rest quietly and greet me with happiness and tears of joy.

[ZeroXSEED]

Absolutely chilling. I watch both, but I'll be honest, i prefer Wartime Stories over Bedtime stories. Your delivery is both impersonal yet very immersive and emotionally-rousing.

[PsilliPig]

Actually, in 1846 an ancestor of a friend of mine in Southern California testified in an affidavit stating that he had encountered a female Sasquatch who wandered into his farm yard, went to the well and got herself a drink, and just sat for a bit before leaving. These Bigfoot are referred to in sixty different native American languages. Now I live in the Pacific Northwest and yes, they've been here longer than that the local First Nation people can remember.