Chinese Master Fakers Of Antique Porcelain And Bronze.

Do you own a piece of Chinese porcelain or an oriental work of art that you would like to know more about, such as age, history and value?

Then you should really consider using our Chinese Antique Valuation Service as the last thing you want to do is risk under selling the piece due to lack of knowledge or ill gotten advice.

[TheFiown]

I went to an auction near Paris two years ago and it was full of oriental antiques, all sorts. The prices where quite low surprisingly. I at once spotted a chinese vase converted to a lamp, estimate 60/80 euros so I stayed until it came up almost at the end. Most objects sold for around their estimate but this vase made over 5000 euros, more than any other piece at the auction that day. I had seen a young Chinese guy at the preview sending pictures of the objects with their marks via his phone giving people time to research.

[jimsteinberg]

Fascinating documentary. Thx for sharing.

[realchinese]

nice documentary, keep up good work..

[GloryDaze]

The entire art auction market is flooded with fakes. Rich people shudder at the thought that they've spent millions on fake paintings and antiques, so the problem is more or less suppressed to retain the 'value of investments 😢'

[neilmiller]

I am a dealer of over 50 years just shows how careful you have to be. Cheaps dear!

[TheFiown]

I was taken to a womans home in a horrible ancient street in Shaoxing (I lived there) to see some 'antiques' to buy. The area had no plumbing and hardly electricity and looked like an area from bygone times. In the house her mother and daughter sat on a bed that was supported on tins containing some product to ward off rats and insects and the floor was dirt. In the second room was 'antiques' stacked up to the ceiling, some incredible mountain scenes in jade type stone with their own silk lined crates. Some of the pieces were massive. I bought a small jade piece and another ceramic piece fully knowing they were modern despite what the woman claimed. The 'real' antiquities I have came from a small town in India where the children found them in the mud when the river was low. They date from around the 14 th century.

[awkwardpenguinftw]

The forgers dont make that much but the middle men do. Its obvious. Making copies of artwork is not a crime, selling it as original perhaps is, but its not the artisans fault.

[chrismalcomson]

There's a classic antique dealers paradox. If you buy 11 Chipendale chairs and you want to a round dozen, you can in theory take an arm off one, a leg off another etc etc until you have enough parts to make the extra chair. Then you have 12 90% restored Chipendale chairs that will stand up to any expert because 90% of their parts are original. You can then sell them as a set of 12 with minor restorations and get top dollar..

[NanashiXoxo]

4:30 even Hayao Miyazaki is confused lol

[TheArtist]

They maybe fakes but they are works of art in their own right

[afusmackdown]

The auction houses want to make money anyway possible, but they also do not want to get caught. They are not archeologists, they are in the selling business. “This car was owned by a little old lady that almost never drove it” the fancy accent is cool though isn’t it.

[E-Kat]

I wonder if you know that you're playing music in the background when we're trying to listen to this documentary?

[gfan]

There was a village in Hunan province in China That makes the Best imitation ancient bronzes. Their products are been sold for tens of millions outside on Auctions as even professionals can't tell, even museums in China buy from them and make specific
orders as the ancient techniques of making and casting Very complex bronzes are thought to have been lost long ago is again resurrected in the hands of those villagers. So If some Body walk in your pawn shop with a ancient bronze statue, it is fake until proven it's real.

[DrFaltermeier]

The video's conclusion regarding the prevalence of fakes in the art market warrants further examination. While the high percentage seems plausible considering the abundance of low-quality artifacts, a more nuanced approach is necessary.
An overreliance on connoisseurship and art historical expertise, while valuable, presents limitations. Scientific testing should be a fundamental requirement for sellers and auction houses, along with a return policy for objects failing such tests.
For instance, X-ray fluorescence (XRF) analysis can definitively differentiate between nephrite and jadeite, the two primary types of jade. Nephrite dominated Chinese art until the 18th century, when jadeite from Burma became prevalent. Similarly, thermoluminescence (TL) testing by reputable labs can effectively determine the authenticity of porcelain.
Likewise, scientific techniques such as elemental analysis, cross-sectioning, and corrosion product crystallographic analysis can be employed to assess the authenticity of bronzes.

[TheFiown]

I love the idea of Chinese Billionaires buying fakes !

[stephenholmes]

Interesting, had a great uncle who worked at the Yale mission. While there collected many pieces of porcelain are they real??

[chrismalcomson]

There was a famous case many years ago of this guy who was in an open prison near me. He spent his time in jail making fake pottery and smuggling it out to auction houses in the area.

[jasonmunsey]

The irony in this can't be ignored. Is this considered karma 🤔

[Forheavenssakeify]

The problem is that "art" has become an investment, status indicator and tax avoidance machine based solely on (perceived) scarcity. Quality reproductions do not threaten art itself, nor enrich the makers. They threaten the financial edifice that "art houses" supports. I don't agree with forgeries, but identified quality reproductions at a reasonable cost would do a lot to educate and inform the public.
In 2004, actor Steve Martin purchased a 1915 Heinrich Campendonk from a Paris gallery for $850, 000 and had an expert authenticate it. After Martin sold it two years later (at a loss), the painting was discovered to be the work of a massive forgery ring that pulled in $48 million off fake Max Ernsts and others

[dolliemainor]

I could surely use his insight on my peaces😢