The Nihility Path Is Getting A Bit Crowded.. | Honkai Star Rail Discussion

In terms of classes, each path within honkai star rail represents a different character archetype. Hunt are single target DPS, preservation are tanks and abundance characters are healers. But every since the launch of the game, the nihility path seems to be home to several different type of characters from debuffers to dot damage dealer and with acheron they now have straight DPS.

It seem that while other paths have developed a niche, nihility seems to be all over the place and the nihility path is getting a bit crowded in terms of character design. So in this video we are going to discuss that in further detail, is this a bad thing or a good thing overall.

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[skinnyboi]

I'd say Nihility isn't confused on what it want's to be, it's that it's "gimmick" is just very abstract since it's just debuff

[Satchiidesu]

if anything the reason nihility have two different ways of functioning boils down to fire lightning physical having dots while ice quantum and imagination stuns applies a debuf that either slows down speeds up or increases the damage that the enemy take when they go out of the stun state

[XieRH]

Nihility’s debuffing basically boils down to:

- Making enemies take more damage
- DoT
- Crowd Control

Just like how Harmony is really mostly all about buffing ATK, Crit, or SPD, there’s really only so many variations you can do these things before it all starts to look like multiple characters do the same thing. When Sparkle came out there were already so many comparisons between her and Bronya due to the kit overlap.

Therefore, Hoyo has to get creative and make more hybrid kits or at least not strictly abide by path archetypes. In fact in some ways this is already happening since early on. Serval for example is Erudition but has a kit that very heavily revolves around the Shock debuff, something you would think was more suited for Nihility.

[Mossymushroomfrog]

Remember everyone: The best debuff is death

[Althedemonking]

Nihility is the one path that is so vague they can get away with practically anything

[voracityxcx]

Since i started playing this game i fell in love with Nihility. Idk, the debuff manipulation is so satisfying to me, keep adding debuffs on enemies till they are very weak and by the time you end your turn, you most likely have finished the round

[YouuuMeeee]

Acheron can give debuff as well in her ult which is lower all type resistance.


Nihility path is not that complicated tbh, they just give enemy debuff.

[venvenerer]

I’d just wish they would add Rememberance as a path that focuses on debuffing enemies in a Sw, Welt and Pela way and Nihility to be kept as a Dot path

[sadadadsmaid]

As a sucker for XI i see this as the absolute win

[pastelantlers]

I would say there are two types of Nihility characters. Backloaded damage which is Kafka, Sampo, Luka, etc who apply a DOT on the enemy while it takes a bit for it to ramp up. While the other is Frontloaded damage with Pela, Welt, and now Archeron who deals the damage right away with no delay. While the frontloaders are a little more gimmicky with slows, def shred, and probably others in the future it's nice they aren't forgetton. With Archeron (won't spoil too much) who thrives on frontloaded Nihility characters like Pela and Welt.

[maksimradojcic]

i think other paths will start to be more like Nihility, like Topaz hunt but she feels more like a support character, or Aventurine preservation with his 50% crit rate from traces, if it stays very simple like hunt > big dmg, preservation > shields, then we would just have a power creep from patch to patch

[-san]

I remember back then after luocha's banner my friend and I are having a conversation about what path has most potential on having strong character's on the future other than harmony and we both agree to destruction due to their nature of having damage output comparable to hunt on single target while still doing blast damage. Then nihility for the reason that as a path nihility has more potential for characters to be Dps or Support especially that time when SW was there offering a lot on the table while being an early unit

[THE_Dr_Nguyen]

I’d say I’m completely fine with this. I feel like nihility has so many different playstyles and the characters open doors to many team comps. It’s a nice change of pace from the usual hyper carries we normally see.

[Hasan-Firas]

Nihility is the middle of the paths, as in:

DPS (Hunt, Destruction, Erudition)

DPS/sup (Nihility)

sup (Preservation, Harmony, Abundance)

[Eclin]

Nihility inflicts “debuff”, but “debuff” in this game is not just there to make you do more damage, it’s a gimmick. In terms of buffing your damage, Harmony far exceeds what Nihility is offering, but Nihility does more than just supporting your DPS, they support their entire own path along the way. And that’s why it’s the best path imo lmao.

Edit: here to note that because all of them inflict “debuffs”, it can be the main distinction between a normal dps and a nihility dps. Maybe they’ll add more enemies in the future that can self-cleanse, or the opposite, weak to “debuffs”.

[Taunt_NG_U]

Nihility is HSR's creative mode because you have your SW/Pela then Kafka/BS & now Acheron, very diverse and generalistic which is exactly why it's the best path!

[MistSGM]

Nihility is literally just: "RANDOM BS DOT, GO", slap some debuffing thingy and voila, a Nihility character.

[arnowisp]

You are going to be so Confused when Acheron comes out because Leaks say she is Nihility who doesnt exactly apply a Debuff. She is empowered by others apply debuffs.

She will be the Raiden Shogun of Nihility.

[AkyJave]

I honestly wouldn't mind if Mihoyo pulls a Dendro later on by adding a new Path (Elation maybe? DoTs seem like something that fits Elation) and changing some existing Nihility characters/LCs to that new path.

[qiqimane]

The best part about Nihility is that you will see number popping out like crazy and that's why using Sampo's E to hit a single enemy feels so goood