Thirty Years War - Famine - European History - Extra History - Part 3

Many things added up to create the famine that swept through the Holy Roman Empire. The 1600s were naturally lean years, as the environment dropped 2 degrees. But things got much, much worse. Let's unpack the economics of the 1600s, how debasement worked, and how while people were eating their neighbors, noble families just got richer.

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[locked_lunatic]

"Let's eat grandma."
"You forgot the comma."
"I wish I did."

[pavarottiaardvark]

Addendum: In 1696, Sir Isaac Newton was employed by the Royal Mint in England to develop ways of stopping people shaving and clipping coins. His solutions included adding small ridges to the rims of coin so users could tell if any metal was missing. You can see these on coins such as the US quarter, Euro 10c and British 5p.

Because of this, for centuries the rims of British coins were inscribed "DECUS ET TUTAMEN" meaning 'a decoration and a safeguard'

[FlaviusBelisarius-ckuv]

“First came the Greycoats to eat all my swine,
Next came the Bluecoats to make my sons fight,
Next came the Greencoats to make my wife whore,
Next came the Browncoats to burn down my home.
I have naught but my life, now come the Blackcoats to rob me of that."
- Anonymous Poem from the 30 years war.

[cosmedelustrac]

It's amazing to think that such a devestating war is relatively unknown outside of the circles of History lovers.

[DragoSonicMile]

_Packs filled with steel and war, but nary a thought to the plow._

[Nurgle]

In Germany there is also the expression for cats:
"Dachhasen", which means something like: Roof rabbits.
Now you can guess where that comes from and why there is a law that slaughtered rabbits (as a whole) can only be sold with their heads on. ^^

Housing armies on civilians houses was one of the issues that led to the Catalonian revolution of the reapers.

[arch-warlock]

i just love how they are doing this by the four horsemen great way to talk about the thirty years war

[Tiberon]

All I have to say is: The past was the worst, anyone who says they “miss the good old days” needs to learn about this period (or any other time in the past 400 years).

[jeremy]

I like to think the last year or so has given us all at least a slight appreciation for important things running out and leaving people in bad places 😟

[LangThoughts]

Everybody was expecting Sabaton's "Lion from the North" to be the theme song for this series, but it seems that d'Artgnan's "Wallenstein", which mourns the famines and economic devastation of Wallenstein, fits more.

[ktheterkuceder]

I only know two films that tackle this historical period: the last valley with michael caine and alatriste with vigo mortensen.

[stickknowledge]

They should absolutely do an episode on Tamerlane

[theemries]

Geeze, is German bread being incredibly expensive, like, an omen of a huge war?

[torylva]

"You have 8000 coins, then you have 10000 coins, an increase of 20%!"
Who did your math there...?
8000*1.2 = 9600

[robertjarman]

I look around and see my home fade away
My time at home now feels far too short.
Just a youth, barely a man when duty called on me
If I ever see my home again
That I do not know
With kinsmen from my village
I went to war
And the world burned...

[Vendavalez]

"The poor eating each other and the rich making more money." Some things never change, do they?

[jackrobertson]

People: Literally eating each other
Extra Credits: How’s your phone bill doing?

[HenningGu]

Wipper refers to the movement a scale makes when weighing coins. Like a seesaw.

Kipper comes from the regional word of "kippen", which can be translated to sorting something. (we now use this word for piling some stuff up, like emptying a wheelbarrow for example)

Source: Wikipedia (and some common knowledge I guess)

[bjornroets]

was just wondering when the next ep would drop