NTSB Preliminary N86H 1960 C-310D Idaho

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FOR EVERYONE - have a look over Juan's should at his plane to see how clean it is.
EVEN if he has give "Harvey" a wash before making the video look at the condition of the paint, prop spinners and windows. Look at how clean the instrument panel is. Yes the white plastic knobs are a little creamy and the red mixture knobs have faded a bit, but anyone who's been in an aircraft 1/2 that age knows this is an exceptionally well kept aircraft.
Externally it looks like its just come out of the show room. Internally it looks like a restored museum piece.

*CONGRATS JUAN - you have inadvertently shown that you practice what you preach.*

tonywilson
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You hit the nail on the head. Owning aircraft and boats is a similar experience when it comes to costs. The purchase price is the tip of the iceberg.

jeffr
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Thank god the pilot lived. I’d like to hear his assessment of what happened and lessons learned so we can avoid issues wherever possible. Thanks for awesome content!

thesparkypilot
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Thanks again Juan, love your reports. Re twin engine ( light) aircraft, we had saying back in the day that the second engine only takes you to the scene of the crash. You definitely need to train for it.

walter
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Well said Juan. Engines do quit or falter. Years ago flying a four engine airplane, #3 engine had a control wire come off the fuel control unit. The engine slowly moved down to a stop. On board was a church singing group going to a competition in STX. One gentle lady looked outside and saw the engine go to feather, and since we were over water let out a scream that would raise Neptune from the sea's deepest bottom. That scream was followed by other members of the group chiming in with, "AMEN Sister! Hallelujah!, etc. etc. Both the captain and I heard the outburst in the cockpit, but the boss who was deep into reading the Sunday Miami Herald thought we were being hijacked, dropping the newspaper, his arms out wide and his right hand hit me in the face breaking my nose. Try explaining that to crew scheduling.

BlackCreek
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Juan, you have a beautiful 310. I know I would feel better if you were in a high performance single. You have more skill than 99% of the people reading this but an engine out on the 310 is serious business. An engine out in the pattern pretty much requires a perfect response. I believe the pilot of 86H is incredibly fortunate to be alive and it appears he handled the engine out in a normal manner. You always keep telling us, minimize the potential issues you may encounter such as landing at a poorly lit airport at night when a larger well lit airport is available. This is the same thing. I'd rather be engine out in a single than engine out in a light twin anywhere except possibly crusing altitude.
Great channel, thanks for sharing your wisdom.

TIM
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Excellent points Juan, thanks again! It Doesn't seem that long ago when it was possible to annual a part 91 Citation 500 for around $10 to $20K and a 310 for about $2500. My experience with light twins like Harvey, was that once you spent a bunch getting them up to shape, they weren't much more costly to maintain than a high performance single.

I once Bought a P-Baron that hadn't flown in 4 years along with two 152's from an operation in Bakersfield that had been on 135. The annual on one 152 was $18, 000 and the other $8, 000, but a very compete annual on the P-Baron was basically labor, and a few parts for about $3800. I was paying salary of my in-house AI rather than shop rates on all annuals, but it illustrates the difference in just what you said about the value of maintenance.

I often advise prospective buyers that buying an aircraft with poor cosmetics but good maintenance and history is better than the other way around, as you can get a better than 100% return on your investment in cosmetics, but about 1% return on the dollars you spent on maintenance.

jackoneil
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My flight instructor said to me: 'a twin won't necessarily get you there in half the time, but it can certainly get you into trouble, twice as fast.'

peterk
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Very glad to hear "minor injuries reported". I think it would be of interest to a # of us if you were able to interview the pilot.

acraftman
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Agree with the “everything forward” thinking with a caveat. If your at a high altitude airport and experience an engine problem on take off and shove the mixture full rich the good engine may very well lose even more power or quit. Ask me how I know 🤪

marlinweekley
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Such a good, even great, in my opinion, explainer! Concise, naming things correctly, but not choking us with detail, and being objective. What a wonderful teacher you are! Fantastic, my favorite aviation videos!!❤❤

lindalaw
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1400 views in 9 minutes, Juan that is fantastic ❤! You obviously are very well respected in the aviation community, and you have earned it. redbaron Chattanooga

Redbaron_sites
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The following happened to a colleague of me: He was flying a BAe Jetstream 31, a regional turboprop, when one of the engines became unresponsibe to power lever commands. It would not be possible to land with one engine at cruise power, so he shut it down and landed without any drama. The culprit was ice formation in an air pressure sensor in the engine air intake. The aircraft had been standing outside in rain the night before.

MagnarNordal
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My grandpa used to say " it's not the price of an elephant, it's the cost of the hay".

NautiGrandpa
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Haven't thanked you in a while, Juan. Thank you. Lol
I don't fly any kind of plane but I learn so much from you and your channel.

asteverino
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My multi time is limited, an hour in a Seneca to see what it was like. Lots more to do. Things happen a lot faster. I had no difficulty in normal operation but can see how things could get out of hand very quickly in an emergency.

marsgal
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Wow! Here I was, just working through your recent videos and stumble across this accident that occured less than 2 miles from my home, which I just missed by a few minutes!! I was leaving for an appointment just around this time. We live just south of this runway by less than two miles, and we took the road that borders this runway to the south every day. If not for the few minutes difference, I would have watched it happen. Hell, on November 1st, I was standing on the tarmac taking pictures of the fuel trucks with their new logos. So glad the pilot was okay and there were no other injuries! We most certainly would have felt the ripples through the community if the outcome was any worse.

cheesecake
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Happy to contribute, even in the tiniest of ways, to the care and feeding of that old beauty. :-)
Also really enjoy being educated by your videos; I've learnt so much!

kxs
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I recall my ME rating and the “critical” engine training. I ended up training in a Seneca ll, having counter-rotating props, making the critical engine scenario less likely. I did have to know it for the ME written and check ride. However the Seneca wasn’t available ( I was a renter at the FBO) for the check ride and I did it in a Seminole, so I had to be sharp on the engine-out procedure. Glad this pilot was ok. Thanks so much for your YT posts, they are the most informative on the internet.

mchurch
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Great update Brownie! I really think you are the defacto source of the straight dope on these aircraft incidents / accidents. Just the facts. No BS, No guesses.. Keep up the great work!

WolfPilot