Are Hero Talents Too Complicated? How Blizz Can FIX It Before The War Within Release!

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0:00 How To FIX Hero Talents In The War Within!
1:36 What are Hero Talents?
5:19 The Complex Hero Talents
10:55 The "GOOD" Hero Talents
14:11 The Almost-Good Hero Talents
18:23 Conclusion: What Blizz Should Do Next

[baroux]

I can't wait to see the Rogue hero talents. :D

[Nokomak]

You know what this really reminds me of... The thing ive missed since Legion. The trees that the artifact weapons had which also had a degree of class flavor and fantasy to them.

[Nokomak]

Guys. Do remember. This is in testing phase.
More than anything these are supposed to give flavor to the classes.

[ninaloveray]

They should have added cosmetics for the classes

[quizkill]

I disagree about your keeper of the grove take. Keeper of the grove was an original class from Warcraft 3 and fits very well thematically with the balance druid. Treants in classic are great. No one really plays treants right now in the meta (at least in pvp), but I'm definitely switching to this play style when it releases. Treants seem viable now.

[Wes-xkhl]

When ppl say they're worried about added complexity, what they're actually saying is likely "you won't be able to balance this"

And that's a legitimate worry. The mutual agreement with anything like this is "we will add this without ruining class balance". Except game makers always act like that second part isn't something they were promising

[ZackNeill]

We don't even have access to them yet, relax and wait for alpha/beta when they're actually testable.

Also read again: testable. It's not final until release

[swiftfeet]

I feel like they should fix talent trees to have more then 1 optimal build. Some classes have button bloat. The ability modifiers are are silly. Some classes can't push high keys because of passive defenses. Some classes are not well built for M+ (not having a aoe stun, interrupt, etc). Some classes are left out of raid because of no raid buff or utility. I don't understand why we must expand into "Hero Talents" when talent tree IMO still need work. Is it cool to have a sub class..sure. There could be so much more gameplay built around capstones. For instance mountains will fall capstone on the ele tree. Its unique because it brings in secondary stats to spell that never benefitted from mastery. Did we ever use it no but getting rid of things like icefury which I personally haven't used EVER could open up the use of this capstone. Connect more lines IDK. Please do not go down the path of more systems when we have things in place that could be great if innovation was used.

[Neomagam]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the Mountain Thane talents for warrior. The tree definitely has some flaws, but the idea of Fury Warriors that use TClap instead of WWind is really interesting. Fairly different from the other trees we have seen thus far in what it is trying to accomplish

[Eliteninja]

Just rework versatility to a stat like resilience and everyrhing will be fine.
Versatility cant be balanced. Simple math….

[_Kroaken_]

Keeper of the Grove and Treants make perfect sense. What are people on about??

[joezar]

Too complicated...? They be auto picking for the player . I actually miss the old school vanilla talent tree's, that were model after Diablo 2 Talent Tree's . That formula just work out better .

[danieljordan]

Ppl need to wait for the iteration of these trees and play testing before going off the deep end.

[quizkill]

Nah, I think they seem fine. Even if it is complex to some, a little complexity isn't bad.

[danielsmith]

Hero talents are just borrowed power bullshit back again...blizz cant even get close to balancing the game atm let alone adding more to scale and balance...terrible terrible terrible idea blizz

[fabiopereiraalves]

hope for unstable affliction soul shard spender

[jeffreygreen]

As a long time player, I think it’s too complicated.

[kennethmalafy]

I'll fix them in two seconds: remove them and give the class skins people actually want.

[kissszilveszter]

As long as PVP is BAD lik NOW, the game will be going down, and will lose more subscribers, cuz noone cares about dungeon streamers, only pvp streamers matters, there is a real chalange!!!

[lou]

Fk me these are mana??? Lmfao ‘Hero talents’ my ass 🤣this game is a joke